[Maniphest] [Commented On] T763: Phabricator far too spammy to continue posting to wikibugs-l
Qgil added a comment. One problem with this approach is that most probably there will not be projects only for bugs. Within a projects you will have bugs, development of new features, and perhaps even other tasks taking time from developers, like writing documentation of running a tutorial in an event. If we really want to see only bugs in wikibugs-l, then the only way is to allow reports and triages to mark bugs as such, with a tag or with a custom field. If adding all the activity of projects likely to contain bugs (software components), then we need to have a list maintained manually. That list could be maintained in the extension itself. What about a special page (can extensions have this?) on projects could be added using type-ahead for comfort. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T763 REPLY HANDLER ACTIONS Reply to comment or attach files, or !close, !claim, !unsubscribe or !assign username. To: Qgil Cc: wikibugs-l, Chad, Qgil, chasemp, Aklapper, mmodell, jeremyb, Legoktm ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Maniphest] [Commented On] T763: Phabricator far too spammy to continue posting to wikibugs-l
Legoktm added a comment. Ok, can we please start simple before deciding to turn actually useful things off? Here's an easy one, have the mailing list (or is this possible to do on Phab's side?) reject all mail with the following header and value: X-Phabricator-Mail-Tags: maniphest-cc That should stop emails that are *only* people CC'ing themselves. Is that possible from mailman @chad? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T763 REPLY HANDLER ACTIONS Reply to comment or attach files, or !close, !claim, !unsubscribe or !assign username. To: Legoktm Cc: wikibugs-l, Chad, Qgil, chasemp, Aklapper, mmodell, jeremyb, Legoktm, Revi ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Maniphest] [Commented On] T763: Phabricator far too spammy to continue posting to wikibugs-l
Aklapper added a comment. [off-topic I guess] ! In T763#15165, @Qgil wrote: I see that a #Bug_Report tag exists. If there was such a tag in here, then there isn't anymore (I don't know the story behind). IMHO it is //good// that the tag is gone if we don't plan to bikeshed on types of tickets. From the top of my head I could offer anomalies, bugs, defects, errors, faults, failures, flaws, glitches, gripes, incidents, problems; feature requests, enhancement requests; or criteria such as crashers, refactoring/code cleanups, specification changes, test case issues, performance issues, security issues, documentation updates. And that's only software development. Personally I don't believe that such categorizations help anybody to find or filter anything because personal criteria differ (the classic: is it a bug or a feature request?) hence I believe in personal notification filter rules based on individual needs / interest in projects. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T763 REPLY HANDLER ACTIONS Reply to comment or attach files, or !close, !claim, !unsubscribe or !assign username. To: Aklapper Cc: wikibugs-l, Chad, Qgil, chasemp, Aklapper, mmodell, jeremyb, Legoktm, Revi, jeremyb-phone, MZMcBride ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Maniphest] [Commented On] T763: Phabricator far too spammy to continue posting to wikibugs-l
Qgil added a comment. ! In T763#15610, @Aklapper wrote: ! In T763#15165, @Qgil wrote: I see that a #Bug_Report tag exists. #Bug-Report It was created with a space, and I applied the guidelines. :) TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T763 REPLY HANDLER ACTIONS Reply to comment or attach files, or !close, !claim, !unsubscribe or !assign username. To: Qgil Cc: wikibugs-l, Chad, Qgil, chasemp, Aklapper, mmodell, jeremyb, Legoktm, Revi, jeremyb-phone, MZMcBride ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Maniphest] [Commented On] T763: Phabricator far too spammy to continue posting to wikibugs-l
jeremyb-phone added a comment. ! In T763#15613, @valhallasw wrote: Discard will silently discard, and should therefore be usable in this situation. citation needed. (or test it) TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T763 REPLY HANDLER ACTIONS Reply to comment or attach files, or !close, !claim, !unsubscribe or !assign username. To: jeremyb-phone Cc: wikibugs-l, Chad, Qgil, chasemp, Aklapper, mmodell, jeremyb, Legoktm, Revi, jeremyb-phone, MZMcBride, valhallasw ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Maniphest] [Commented On] T763: Phabricator far too spammy to continue posting to wikibugs-l
chasemp added a comment. What if we made an extension that added the list for any project with the bug symbol? Could have a generic one 'bug' but then then it allows better taxonomy. Unless there is a better use for the bug symbol. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T763 REPLY HANDLER ACTIONS Reply to comment or attach files, or !close, !claim, !unsubscribe or !assign username. To: chasemp Cc: wikibugs-l, Chad, Qgil, chasemp, Aklapper, mmodell, jeremyb, Legoktm ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Maniphest] [Commented On] T763: Phabricator far too spammy to continue posting to wikibugs-l
mmodell added a comment. Ok I think we should create a 'bug' tag (project)... the only problem I can see is that users unfamiliar with out conventions would most likely omit the 'bug' project when submitting bug reports. We could handle this in triage by simply adding the tag when it's forgotten but that's extra manual effort for our triage team. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T763 REPLY HANDLER ACTIONS Reply to comment or attach files, or !close, !claim, !unsubscribe or !assign username. To: mmodell Cc: wikibugs-l, Chad, Qgil, chasemp, Aklapper, mmodell, jeremyb ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Maniphest] [Commented On] T763: Phabricator far too spammy to continue posting to wikibugs-l
chasemp added a comment. a good idea but I am hesitant to do this before bugzilla migration as I think it encourages something we don't wantmaybe wikibugs-l shouldn't get anything from phab until then? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T763 REPLY HANDLER ACTIONS Reply to comment or attach files, or !close, !claim, !unsubscribe or !assign username. To: chasemp Cc: wikibugs-l, Chad, Qgil, chasemp, Aklapper, mmodell, jeremyb ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Maniphest] [Commented On] T763: Phabricator far too spammy to continue posting to wikibugs-l
chasemp added a comment. ! In T763#14142, @jeremyb wrote: Does it have to be a single project to decide whether or not it goes to the list? it could be a list, right now it's simply new tasks CC the list. We can pair that down how we want per herald. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T763 REPLY HANDLER ACTIONS Reply to comment or attach files, or !close, !claim, !unsubscribe or !assign username. To: chasemp Cc: wikibugs-l, Chad, Qgil, chasemp, Aklapper, mmodell, jeremyb ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Maniphest] [Commented On] T763: Phabricator far too spammy to continue posting to wikibugs-l
Chad added a comment. ! In T763#14145, @chasemp wrote: maybe wikibugs-l shouldn't get anything from phab until then? That. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T763 REPLY HANDLER ACTIONS Reply to comment or attach files, or !close, !claim, !unsubscribe or !assign username. To: Chad Cc: wikibugs-l, Chad, Qgil, chasemp, Aklapper, mmodell, jeremyb ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Maniphest] [Commented On] T763: Phabricator far too spammy to continue posting to wikibugs-l
chasemp added a comment. proposing removal of the auto cc of wikibugs-l until bugzilla migration is done then TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T763 REPLY HANDLER ACTIONS Reply to comment or attach files, or !close, !claim, !unsubscribe or !assign username. To: chasemp Cc: wikibugs-l, Chad, Qgil, chasemp, Aklapper, mmodell, jeremyb ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Maniphest] [Commented On] T763: Phabricator far too spammy to continue posting to wikibugs-l
mmodell added a comment. ok I changed the rules a little: Instead of adding the CC, new tasks simply send a single email to the list, this will cut down on spam significantly. **When all of these conditions are met:** Projects do not include `security`, `operations`, `Human-Resources`, `Community-Engagement`, `WMF-Legal` Is newly created? is `true` **Take these actions the first time this rule matches:** Send an email to wikibugs-l ___ Then another herald rule sets the cc for wikibugs-l under a more narrow set of conditions: --- **When any of these conditions are met:** Projects include any of `Bug Report`, `Patch-For-Review` Title contains `[bug]` **Take these actions the first time this rule matches:** Add emails to CC: `wikibugs-l` TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T763 REPLY HANDLER ACTIONS Reply to comment or attach files, or !close, !claim, !unsubscribe or !assign username. To: mmodell Cc: wikibugs-l, Chad, Qgil, chasemp, Aklapper, mmodell, jeremyb, Legoktm ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Maniphest] [Commented On] T763: Phabricator far too spammy to continue posting to wikibugs-l
Chad added a comment. Maybe spammy isn't the right word, as it's not volume we're worried about. It's that we're encouraging the filing of many tasks that aren't actually bugs or enhancement requests in the software (broadly speaking). Tasks like team plan for Q2 fall way outside the scope of wikibugs-l. I think chase's suggestion about adding a project is a good idea. Maybe it shouldn't go to wikibugs-l until a code related project is added? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T763 REPLY HANDLER ACTIONS Reply to comment or attach files, or !close, !claim, !unsubscribe or !assign username. To: Chad Cc: wikibugs-l, Chad, Qgil, chasemp, Aklapper, jeremyb ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
