[Bug 11190] Chat rooms for individual pages

2014-01-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org changed:

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--- Comment #12 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org ---
*** Bug 57507 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Bug 11190] Chat rooms for individual pages

2013-11-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com changed:

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[Bug 11190] Chat rooms for individual pages

2011-06-29 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Platonides platoni...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #11 from Platonides platoni...@gmail.com 2011-06-29 13:28:23 UTC 
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*** Bug 29642 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Bug 11190] Chat rooms for individual pages

2010-09-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11190

Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com changed:

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 Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED
 Resolution||WONTFIX

--- Comment #5 from Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com 2010-09-15 09:35:50 UTC 
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There's already IRC. There's even an extension that allows to use it from
on-wiki interface. Therefore, adding yet another method of chat would result in
multiplying entities beyond necessity. Don't forget that all means of
communication in 
MediaWiki is there to achieve one goal: collaboration, not random chit-chat.
And real-time chatting is much less convenient for that exact purpose.

Not a snowball's chance in hell that we'll ever implement it.

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[Bug 11190] Chat rooms for individual pages

2010-09-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11190

--- Comment #6 from Monomium monom...@gmail.com 2010-09-15 22:50:06 UTC ---
This really isn't that difficult. Could you link to that extension?

*In my opinion, this is a simple matter of connecting to IRC and adding a tab.
*Wikinews added an opinions tab; this can't be that difficult.
*This really is a community decision, not a developer decision.
*Who told you it was random chit-chat was the only use?

(In reply to comment #5)
 There's already IRC. There's even an extension that allows to use it from
 on-wiki interface. Therefore, adding yet another method of chat would result 
 in
 multiplying entities beyond necessity. Don't forget that all means of
 communication in 
 MediaWiki is there to achieve one goal: collaboration, not random chit-chat.
 And real-time chatting is much less convenient for that exact purpose.
 
 Not a snowball's chance in hell that we'll ever implement it.

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[Bug 11190] Chat rooms for individual pages

2010-09-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Bawolff bawolff...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #7 from Bawolff bawolff...@gmail.com 2010-09-15 22:57:50 UTC ---
*This really is a community decision, not a developer decision.

That is totally different. The opinion tab is just a talk page.

*In my opinion, this is a simple matter of connecting to IRC and adding a tab.

Its a tad more complicated than that, but that is more or less what you do.
However I do not believe difficulty is the issue, more there is philosophical
issues.

Could you link to that extension?

There are many (although a lot of them suck). You know there is a search button
-
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Chat_extensions

*This really is a community decision, not a developer decision.

Thats debatable, however i don't see any links to community consensus either.

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[Bug 11190] Chat rooms for individual pages

2010-09-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Chad H. innocentkil...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #8 from Chad H. innocentkil...@gmail.com 2010-09-15 22:59:11 UTC 
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(In reply to comment #6)
 This really isn't that difficult. Could you link to that extension?
 

http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WebChat

 *In my opinion, this is a simple matter of connecting to IRC and adding a tab.
 *Wikinews added an opinions tab; this can't be that difficult.

Adding a tab is easy. We're not objecting because it's hard to do.

 *This really is a community decision, not a developer decision.

Fair enough, but without a pretty strong community consensus for this you'll be
hard pressed to find a developer to implement it. Even then, it might not get
implemented anytime soon (unless it is something the Foundation wants and can
put paid developers behind).

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[Bug 11190] Chat rooms for individual pages

2010-09-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11190

--- Comment #9 from Monomium monom...@gmail.com 2010-09-15 23:03:17 UTC ---
The WebChat extension is useless, if you want to use Freenode (all the WM
channels are there) as Freenode blocks Mibbit.

This is a featured proposal at
http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposal:Real-time_chat the Strategy Wiki;
we'll have to see where that goes.

(In reply to comment #8)
 (In reply to comment #6)
  This really isn't that difficult. Could you link to that extension?
  
 
 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WebChat
 
  *In my opinion, this is a simple matter of connecting to IRC and adding a 
  tab.
  *Wikinews added an opinions tab; this can't be that difficult.
 
 Adding a tab is easy. We're not objecting because it's hard to do.
 
  *This really is a community decision, not a developer decision.
 
 Fair enough, but without a pretty strong community consensus for this you'll 
 be
 hard pressed to find a developer to implement it. Even then, it might not get
 implemented anytime soon (unless it is something the Foundation wants and can
 put paid developers behind).

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[Bug 11190] Chat rooms for individual pages

2010-09-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11190

Monomium monom...@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

URL||http://strategy.wikimedia.o
   ||rg/wiki/Proposal:Real-time_
   ||chat

--- Comment #10 from Monomium monom...@gmail.com 2010-09-15 23:03:51 UTC ---
The WebChat extension is useless, if you want to use Freenode (all the WM
channels are there) as Freenode blocks Mibbit.

This is a featured proposal at
http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposal:Real-time_chat the Strategy Wiki;
we'll have to see where that goes.

(In reply to comment #8)
 (In reply to comment #6)
  This really isn't that difficult. Could you link to that extension?
  
 
 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WebChat
 
  *In my opinion, this is a simple matter of connecting to IRC and adding a 
  tab.
  *Wikinews added an opinions tab; this can't be that difficult.
 
 Adding a tab is easy. We're not objecting because it's hard to do.
 
  *This really is a community decision, not a developer decision.
 
 Fair enough, but without a pretty strong community consensus for this you'll 
 be
 hard pressed to find a developer to implement it. Even then, it might not get
 implemented anytime soon (unless it is something the Foundation wants and can
 put paid developers behind).

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[Bug 11190] Chat rooms for individual pages

2010-09-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11190

Monomium monom...@gmail.com changed:

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 Resolution|WONTFIX |

--- Comment #4 from Monomium monom...@gmail.com 2010-09-15 01:20:05 UTC ---
Actually, if the channels were organized by topic, then we wouldn't have 3
million, but perhaps 40. If there was interest, the channel number could grow
and cover more specific topics. I'd start with channels (or chatrooms or
whatever you want to call them) for:

Culture · Geography · Health · History · Mathematics · Natural sciences ·
People · Philosophy · Religion · Society · Technology

Any thoughts?

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