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asked something like that around comment 47 but it's very hard: currently not
even WMF and its own changes have anything like a database stress budget.
(Too long a discussion for this
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Before embarking on one of your recommended courses of action:
Would it be possible for us to process the dump to get a list of unwatched
pages?
At Wiktionary we usually focus only
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Thanks. I hope it stays fixed. There is some room for reduction in frequency or
elimination of certain reports. If wikis had so kind of resource budget for
maintenance reports, it
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The plan as per comment 70 and comment 82 has been implemented. If someone can
just have a crosswiki look at the special pages to ensure they're being updated
correctly and at the ganglia
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These queries were fine in December after Nemo's last patch, plus Tim fixed a
related load balancing bug allowing me to properly segregate them. So from DB
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Yep, as anticipated in comment 93 the monthly updates will need to be resorted
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Staggering things more would be fantastic. Batching even.
Note that as per db-eqiad.php Query::recache (which I think these count as)
stuff has been pointed to the snapshot slaves,
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Update on the plan as per comment 70 and comment 82: the monthly update of all
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As said above, the update is now set to be monthly. In 5 days from now we
should see the stream of updates.
It is 15 days from now and many pages are still not
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It is 15 days from now and many pages are still not updated.
Broken Redirects, Double Redirects, Uncategorized Pages, Uncategorized
Templates, Uncategorized
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The special page that shows the most requested pages on
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As said above, the update is now set to be monthly. In 5 days from now we
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I came here from Wikisource. Special:WantedPages in enwikisource was last
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Does this somehow fix the problem of special pages (all of them) currently not
being automatically refreshed?
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Does this somehow fix the problem of special pages (all of them) currently
not
being automatically refreshed?
That's a separate issue with the separate cronjob
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I saw when these queries ran but didn't know what they were at the time. Thanks
for cc'ing me.
Don't make the mistake of thinking the databases are bored ;-) That's a
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Coming from https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2013/34
Half a year on all wikis? Quite a nonsense. :-/
Small wikis with hundreds or thousands of articles can be simply updated much
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So, this bug can now hopefully be considered (mostly) fixed, with its current
summary, after mutante approved and fixed the change above.
Nemo:
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So, this bug can now hopefully be considered (mostly) fixed, with its
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Aren't the pages
* https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:DeadendPages
* https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MostLinked
* https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MostRevisions
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Aren't the pages
* https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:DeadendPages
* https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MostLinked
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Given this bug can't be resolved in short time, I made a version on Tool-Lab:
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Given this bug can't be resolved in short time,
Actually, Asher gave green light for the patch, Reedy amended it and it could
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For small projects like this one, generating such a page doesn't take more
than a few seconds (1.69 sec in this case). Maybe special pages like these
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Also, it would be good to review algorithms used to compute theses pages, and
maybe databases need refactoring to optimize such computations.
In most
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Bug 15434 depends on bug 43668, which changed state.
Bug 43668 Summary: Re-enable disabled Special pages on small wikis (wikis in
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reedy@fenari:~$ time mwscript updateSpecialPages.php enwiki --override | tee
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Statistics 1m completed in 21.33s
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Update of all reports, also disabled, on de.wiki
Reedy also did de.wiki.
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1. Can I take WP's experience as a reasonable indication of the relative oost
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It's missing the temporary disabled
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The special pages haven't updated in 5 days at pt.wikt. Is it related to the
moving of servers?
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Check this link, for example:
https://pt.wiktionary.org/wiki/Especial:Categorias_pedidas
This one is 6 days old:
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The special pages haven't updated in 5 days at pt.wikt. Is it related to the
moving of servers?
Seems quite likely.
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Malafaya: As this is not about Currently disabled special pages, I've copied
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Bug 39667 Summary: Divide wikis into database lists by approximate size for
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Further (non-)updates: I sent an e-mail to wikitech-l on this about a week
ago
but got no feedback so far (I never have luck with wikitech-l emails ;) ).
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Andre, can you chase this up with Ops? Open a RT ticket or something?
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/33713/ needs review and/or merging. Only Ops
can flick that switch, which is the
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Would it be possible to do at least annual runs of WantedPages for principal
namespace on en.wiktionary.org?
All the redlinks are annoying to look at. Some are valid terms that we
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Further (non-)updates: I sent an e-mail to wikitech-l on this about a week ago
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Bug 39667 is progressing, but in the meanwhile I've tried to suggest an
alternative approach at gerrit change 33713.
The idea would be to update only one page per
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So, here's another specific request from the Kyrgyz Wikipedia:
They find https://ky.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:DeadendPages useful for
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Once a year would be good for large projects. They could then build
wikiprojects to manage the task of creating all important missing articles.
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Currently disabled (last updated October 2009):
* DeadendPages
* AncientPages
* LonelyPages
* UncategorizedCategories
* WantedPages
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Currently
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I think we can just remove those pages. The benefit is too low in compare to
what we gain.
I can't agree with that at the moment. We are
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Not only Special:WantedPages needs to be updated because of being disabled -
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