[Bug 24710] Problem with tabs display on Serbian Wikipedia
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24710 m.p.ropp...@web.de changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED CC||m.p.ropp...@web.de Resolution||WORKSFORME -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 24710] Problem with tabs display on Serbian Wikipedia
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24710 --- Comment #17 from Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com 2010-09-08 18:51:57 UTC --- (In reply to comment #16) So, basically, div with the p-variants ID should have the properties of vectorTabs class (and everything that goes with it), not vectorMenu. I don't think there's an easy and slick way of achieving that without changing MediaWiki, or whatever generates this code. Since CSS doesn't have non-inheritance, even if it's possible to do this in CSS, it would be long, dirty and ugly. You can use JS to change the class of the variants div and unwrap the contents of the h5. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 24710] Problem with tabs display on Serbian Wikipedia
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24710 --- Comment #16 from Filip Maljkovic [Dungodung] dungod...@gmail.com 2010-08-16 10:20:04 UTC --- OK, I dug a bit deeper here and here are my findings. The following code is in place now for any page (I changed the indentation for obvious reasons): div id=p-variants class=vectorMenu h5spanВаријанте/spana href=#/a/h5 div class=menu ul li id=ca-0a href=/sr-ec/pagetitle ћирилица/a/li li id=ca-1a href=/sr-el/pagetitle latinica/a/li /ul /div /div Instead, having something like this does the trick: div id=p-variants class=vectorTabs h5Варијанте/h5 ul li id=ca-0a href=/sr-ec/pagetitle spanћирилица/span/a/li li id=ca-1a href=/sr-el/pagetitle spanlatinica/span/a/li /ul /div So, basically, div with the p-variants ID should have the properties of vectorTabs class (and everything that goes with it), not vectorMenu. I don't think there's an easy and slick way of achieving that without changing MediaWiki, or whatever generates this code. Since CSS doesn't have non-inheritance, even if it's possible to do this in CSS, it would be long, dirty and ugly. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 24710] Problem with tabs display on Serbian Wikipedia
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24710 --- Comment #3 from Loshmi los...@hotmail.com 2010-08-12 09:06:39 UTC --- I don't get what kind of consensus you have in mind. Please take a look at the Monobook skin on Serbian Wikipedia - you can clearly see that the tabs ћирилица/latinica are visible all the time. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 24710] Problem with tabs display on Serbian Wikipedia
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24710 --- Comment #4 from Loshmi los...@hotmail.com 2010-08-12 09:08:39 UTC --- P. S. Sorry that I couldn't reply sooner. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 24710] Problem with tabs display on Serbian Wikipedia
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24710 --- Comment #5 from Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com 2010-08-12 10:08:49 UTC --- I've enabled this feature on srwiki now, but there's something weird going on. The variant name only shows after you've selected a variant (either Latin or Cyrillic), but doesn't show anything initially. This is because the default variant (sr) is disabled. So the code tries to find the active variant (sr) in the variant list, which only contains enabled variants (sr-el and sr-ec), and fails. Do you, or anyone in the Serbian community, know why this strange construct exists? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 24710] Problem with tabs display on Serbian Wikipedia
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24710 --- Comment #6 from Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com 2010-08-12 10:49:59 UTC --- Looks like you could experiment with fixing this by editing [[MediaWiki:Variantname-sr]] to say something other than 'disable' -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 24710] Problem with tabs display on Serbian Wikipedia
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24710 --- Comment #7 from Loshmi los...@hotmail.com 2010-08-12 11:19:04 UTC --- Oh, no. This doesn't solve problem at all, because the main problem is exactly that those tabs are not visible by default, and they should be. I think that one of your developers her is Rainman, which I've asked before about this, but he told me to report here, cause he's short with time recently. Maybe I can ask him again, or I can ask few other programmers from Serbian wiki. I'll post an answer here as soon as they told me if they know anything about that strange construct. Or better, I'll ask them to reply here directly. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 24710] Problem with tabs display on Serbian Wikipedia
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24710 Filip Maljkovic [Dungodung] dungod...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||dungod...@gmail.com --- Comment #9 from Filip Maljkovic [Dungodung] dungod...@gmail.com 2010-08-12 11:35:17 UTC --- I edited that page, and I think it works as Loshmi wants in Vector. However, this has an ugly side effect for Monobook (and, likely, other skins), because the default tab is now shown and it takes a lot of unnecessary space (and, in fact, on smaller screens with sysop account, the last tab doesn't fit in the tabs row, but I guess we can put something shorter than подразумевано, I just can't think of a better word). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 24710] Problem with tabs display on Serbian Wikipedia
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24710 --- Comment #10 from Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com 2010-08-12 11:37:25 UTC --- Maybe we should change the software so there's a way to disable a variant other than setting its description to 'disable' (this is an ugly hack anyway), so we can have a variant that's disabled but does have a description. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 24710] Problem with tabs display on Serbian Wikipedia
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24710 --- Comment #11 from Filip Maljkovic [Dungodung] dungod...@gmail.com 2010-08-12 11:42:37 UTC --- I don't know what you mean by disable a variant, because the default has never been disabled. The fact that there was disable in the MediaWiki:Variantname-sr message just meant that the tab shouldn't be shown, and rightfully so for Monobook. To be honest, I don't think this should be visible in Vector either. Rereading the original bug description, I think there should be a different approach to this problem: not in changing the message, but rather in changing CSS/JS so as to display the variant names as tabs/whatever, not as dropdown menu items without an intuitive menu name (because a triangle/arrow doesn't mean much). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 24710] Problem with tabs display on Serbian Wikipedia
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24710 --- Comment #12 from Loshmi los...@hotmail.com 2010-08-12 11:51:00 UTC --- Подразумевано means default - it doesn't imply that it serves for writing selection. Maybe we can make some other name, but I think that would be confusing and non practical anyway. I agree that the best solution would be that tabs ћирилица/latinica are visible all the time like in Monobook, and like other tabs (Страна, Разговор, читај, измени, историја) in Vector. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 24710] Problem with tabs display on Serbian Wikipedia
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24710 Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Component|Language setup |Vector Skin Version|unspecified |1.17-svn AssignedTo|wikibug...@lists.wikimedia. |tpars...@wikimedia.org |org | Product|Wikimedia |MediaWiki --- Comment #13 from Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com 2010-08-12 11:57:41 UTC --- (In reply to comment #11) I don't know what you mean by disable a variant, because the default has never been disabled. The fact that there was disable in the MediaWiki:Variantname-sr message just meant that the tab shouldn't be shown, and rightfully so for Monobook. To be honest, I don't think this should be visible in Vector either. Being able to use the tabs/dropdown/whatever to navigate from unconverted to Latin or Cyrillic but not back makes no sense to me. Rereading the original bug description, I think there should be a different approach to this problem: not in changing the message, but rather in changing CSS/JS so as to display the variant names as tabs/whatever, not as dropdown menu items without an intuitive menu name (because a triangle/arrow doesn't mean much). Then this is a feature request for the Vector skin, changing component. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 24710] Problem with tabs display on Serbian Wikipedia
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24710 --- Comment #14 from Filip Maljkovic [Dungodung] dungod...@gmail.com 2010-08-12 12:01:23 UTC --- (In reply to comment #13) Being able to use the tabs/dropdown/whatever to navigate from unconverted to Latin or Cyrillic but not back makes no sense to me. Well, yeah, I agree that it's a bit weird, but we didn't have any complaints so far, in the past 4 years and counting. If people want to see a variant, be it Cyrillic or Latin, they usually don't want to go back to default, because, well, default tends to be the buggiest variant (also the default one and the one that should stay for all intents and purposes). And the rest of us that do want to get back to the default... well, we know how to do it by changing the URL, for instance. (In reply to comment #13) Then this is a feature request for the Vector skin, changing component. Alright, at least we now know where to poke. :) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 24710] Problem with tabs display on Serbian Wikipedia
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24710 --- Comment #15 from Loshmi los...@hotmail.com 2010-08-12 12:10:56 UTC --- (In reply to comment #14) (In reply to comment #13) Being able to use the tabs/dropdown/whatever to navigate from unconverted to Latin or Cyrillic but not back makes no sense to me. This works when you click on tab article (named чланак in Monobook, and страница in Vector). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 24710] Problem with tabs display on Serbian Wikipedia
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24710 Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||roan.katt...@gmail.com --- Comment #1 from Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com 2010-08-07 10:36:21 UTC --- The Chinese Wikipedia seems to have some JavaScript in place to put the name of the currently selected variant on top of the dropdown (see http://zh.wikipedia.org/?useskin=vector ). If you think that's an acceptable solution, I could just add that in Vector itself so you don't need JS hacks for it. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 24710] Problem with tabs display on Serbian Wikipedia
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24710 --- Comment #2 from Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com 2010-08-07 10:42:00 UTC --- Further inspection shows it's not JavaScript at all, but some optional setting called $wgVectorShowVariantName. zhwiki requested it in bug 23531; if you can show community consensus for it, I can enable this setting on srwiki as well. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
