[Bug 25752] Add userrights necessary for bureaucrat role to bureaucrat usergroup on en.wiki
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25752 xenocidic changed: What|Removed |Added Priority|Lowest |Normal -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 25752] Add userrights necessary for bureaucrat role to bureaucrat usergroup on en.wiki
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25752 --- Comment #13 from xenocidic 2011-05-14 14:43:35 UTC --- Nevertheless, it may be required to cleanup in some rare instances, and consensus exists to add movesubpages. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 25752] Add userrights necessary for bureaucrat role to bureaucrat usergroup on en.wiki
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25752 Ruslan changed: What|Removed |Added CC||rusli...@gmail.com --- Comment #12 from Ruslan 2011-05-01 19:43:03 UTC --- As was demonstrated in https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Make_userrights_self-sufficient#General_discussion 'renameuser' userright allows bureaucrats to move unlimited number of user subpages. Therefore 'move-subpages' userright is not needed. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 25752] Add userrights necessary for bureaucrat role to bureaucrat usergroup on en.wiki
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25752 --- Comment #11 from Sven Manguard 2011-04-24 06:21:51 UTC --- Correct. This bug was linked to from the other bug, bugzilla:28440, which linked to that thread. Cenarium is correct in his assessment, as far as it applies to 'crats. There was consensus involving adding rights to CU and OS, but those are handled in 28440. So in short, yes, what is actionable for this bug is adding move-subpages, suppressredirect, and tboverride rights to the bureaucrat usergroup. Sven. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 25752] Add userrights necessary for bureaucrat role to bureaucrat usergroup on en.wiki
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25752 Cenarium changed: What|Removed |Added CC||cenarium.sy...@gmail.com --- Comment #10 from Cenarium 2011-04-24 02:37:22 UTC --- I think the new RFC hasn't been linked in this bug request, it's at [[Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Make userrights self-sufficient]]. There is consensus for adding move-subpages, suppressredirect, and tboverride rights to the bureaucrat usergroup. There is no consensus for adding any other. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 25752] Add userrights necessary for bureaucrat role to bureaucrat usergroup on en.wiki
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25752 Sven Manguard changed: What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED CC||svenmangu...@gmail.com Resolution|WONTFIX | --- Comment #9 from Sven Manguard 2011-04-24 01:38:41 UTC --- It's been over a week since the RfC was started, and the conversation has petered out. I think it's safe to wrap these up. adding deletedhistory, deletedtext, and browsearchive for 'crats has failed to reach clear consensus, and is at 36-26 right now. adding move-subpages, suppressredirect, and tboverride for 'crats has a consensus, currently at 54-3 Sven. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 25752] Add userrights necessary for bureaucrat role to bureaucrat usergroup on en.wiki
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25752 --- Comment #8 from xenocidic 2011-02-02 20:48:54 UTC --- Since my new role means I'll be hanging onto +sysop for some time, I'll table this for now, and perhaps revisit this in the future. I still think that, at the very least, "move-subpages" and "suppressredirect" should be in the bureaucrat package because both are strictly necessary for carrying out renames. Surely I am not the first, nor will I be the last, bureaucrat who toyed around with the idea of shuffling off the sysop coil to quietly toil away performing renames. Thanks for your attention to this. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 25752] Add userrights necessary for bureaucrat role to bureaucrat usergroup on en.wiki
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25752 Rob Halsell changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution||WONTFIX --- Comment #7 from Rob Halsell 2011-02-02 19:59:54 UTC --- I really do not see a clear consensus on this. The fact it is on enwiki makes it even more pressing to have it. Since this is already covered by sysop rights, and 'crats can assign themselves sysop, unless there is a clear consensus, I do not feel comfortable making this change. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 25752] Add userrights necessary for bureaucrat role to bureaucrat usergroup on en.wiki
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25752 --- Comment #6 from xenocidic 2010-11-13 23:00:59 UTC --- Most of the objections simply felt the proposal was a solution in search of a problem. For whatever reason, they believed that a bureaucrat would not/should not shed their sysop flag. But I see value in it, and it's a fairly innocuous request that simply adds some redundancy to the userright. Could run an RFC if someone feels the consensus is not strong enough. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 25752] Add userrights necessary for bureaucrat role to bureaucrat usergroup on en.wiki
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25752 Bawolff changed: What|Removed |Added CC||bawolff...@gmail.com --- Comment #5 from Bawolff 2010-11-13 21:57:52 UTC --- Just to clarify, does this have consensus? https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28proposals%29/Archive_65#Copying_userrights_from_sysop_to_bureaucrat_-_arbitrary_break doesn't seem to be overwhelming support for this (although admittedly I skimmed it very quickly). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 25752] Add userrights necessary for bureaucrat role to bureaucrat usergroup on en.wiki
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25752 --- Comment #4 from xenocidic 2010-11-13 15:33:57 UTC --- I don't think Betacommand wrote what you think he did. And there is something to fix: if a bureaucrat did not have sysop rights they would be hamstrung in performing their duties. See https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28proposals%29/Archive_65#Copying_userrights_from_sysop_to_bureaucrat_-_arbitrary_break for deconstruction of this. Do note that of the seven userrights being added to the bureaucrat right, only two are presently exclusive to sysop. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 25752] Add userrights necessary for bureaucrat role to bureaucrat usergroup on en.wiki
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25752 TeleComNasSprVen changed: What|Removed |Added CC||afterthespaghe...@mailinato ||r.com --- Comment #3 from TeleComNasSprVen 2010-11-12 08:08:51 UTC --- (In reply to comment #0) > Please add the following userrights to the bureaucrat usergroup on en.wiki - > > move-subpages > suppressredirect > tboverride > apihighlimits > browsearchive > deletedhistory > deletedtext > > They are necessary for the bureaucrat role and should be implicitly included. > > Thanks. > > (imho this should be done globally, but this is filed as a site request) Per Betacommand, I don't think this is necessary. There's nothing to fix here. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 25752] Add userrights necessary for bureaucrat role to bureaucrat usergroup on en.wiki
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25752 Betacommand changed: What|Removed |Added CC||phoenixoverr...@gmail.com --- Comment #2 from Betacommand 2010-11-02 15:04:57 UTC --- sysop != 'crat. Some crats want to be able to remove the +sysop without losing key rights to preform the crat actions. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 25752] Add userrights necessary for bureaucrat role to bureaucrat usergroup on en.wiki
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25752 Brownout changed: What|Removed |Added CC||brovvnout+wikibugzi...@gmai ||l.com --- Comment #1 from Brownout 2010-11-02 15:02:01 UTC --- Aren't those already included in the sysop flag? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 25752] Add userrights necessary for bureaucrat role to bureaucrat usergroup on en.wiki
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25752 Reedy changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||shell -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l