[Bug 25752] Add userrights necessary for bureaucrat role to bureaucrat usergroup on en.wiki

2011-05-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25752

xenocidic  changed:

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   Priority|Lowest  |Normal

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[Bug 25752] Add userrights necessary for bureaucrat role to bureaucrat usergroup on en.wiki

2011-05-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25752

--- Comment #13 from xenocidic  2011-05-14 14:43:35 UTC ---
Nevertheless, it may be required to cleanup in some rare instances, and
consensus exists to add movesubpages.

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[Bug 25752] Add userrights necessary for bureaucrat role to bureaucrat usergroup on en.wiki

2011-05-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25752

Ruslan  changed:

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--- Comment #12 from Ruslan  2011-05-01 19:43:03 UTC ---
As was demonstrated in 

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Make_userrights_self-sufficient#General_discussion
 

'renameuser' userright allows bureaucrats to move unlimited number of user
subpages.

Therefore 'move-subpages' userright is not needed.

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[Bug 25752] Add userrights necessary for bureaucrat role to bureaucrat usergroup on en.wiki

2011-04-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25752

--- Comment #11 from Sven Manguard  2011-04-24 06:21:51 
UTC ---
Correct. This bug was linked to from the other bug, bugzilla:28440, which
linked to that thread. Cenarium is correct in his assessment, as far as it
applies to 'crats. There was consensus involving adding rights to CU and OS,
but those are handled in 28440. 

So in short, yes, what is actionable for this bug is adding move-subpages,
suppressredirect, and tboverride rights to the bureaucrat usergroup.

Sven.

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[Bug 25752] Add userrights necessary for bureaucrat role to bureaucrat usergroup on en.wiki

2011-04-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25752

Cenarium  changed:

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--- Comment #10 from Cenarium  2011-04-24 02:37:22 
UTC ---
I think the new RFC hasn't been linked in this bug request, it's at
[[Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Make userrights self-sufficient]].

There is consensus for adding move-subpages, suppressredirect, and tboverride
rights to the bureaucrat usergroup.

There is no consensus for adding any other.

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[Bug 25752] Add userrights necessary for bureaucrat role to bureaucrat usergroup on en.wiki

2011-04-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25752

Sven Manguard  changed:

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--- Comment #9 from Sven Manguard  2011-04-24 01:38:41 
UTC ---
It's been over a week since the RfC was started, and the conversation has
petered out. I think it's safe to wrap these up.

adding deletedhistory, deletedtext, and browsearchive for 'crats has failed to
reach clear consensus, and is at 36-26 right now.

adding move-subpages, suppressredirect, and tboverride for 'crats has a
consensus, currently at 54-3

Sven.

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[Bug 25752] Add userrights necessary for bureaucrat role to bureaucrat usergroup on en.wiki

2011-02-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #8 from xenocidic  2011-02-02 20:48:54 UTC ---
Since my new role means I'll be hanging onto +sysop for some time, I'll table
this for now, and perhaps revisit this in the future.

I still think that, at the very least, "move-subpages" and "suppressredirect"
should be in the bureaucrat package because both are strictly necessary for
carrying out renames. Surely I am not the first, nor will I be the last,
bureaucrat who toyed around with the idea of shuffling off the sysop coil to
quietly toil away performing renames.

Thanks for your attention to this.

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[Bug 25752] Add userrights necessary for bureaucrat role to bureaucrat usergroup on en.wiki

2011-02-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Rob Halsell  changed:

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--- Comment #7 from Rob Halsell  2011-02-02 19:59:54 
UTC ---
I really do not see a clear consensus on this.  The fact it is on enwiki makes
it even more pressing to have it.

Since this is already covered by sysop rights, and 'crats can assign themselves
sysop, unless there is a clear consensus, I do not feel comfortable making this
change.

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[Bug 25752] Add userrights necessary for bureaucrat role to bureaucrat usergroup on en.wiki

2010-11-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25752

--- Comment #6 from xenocidic  2010-11-13 23:00:59 UTC ---
Most of the objections simply felt the proposal was a solution in search of a
problem. For whatever reason, they believed that a bureaucrat would not/should
not shed their sysop flag. But I see value in it, and it's a fairly innocuous
request that simply adds some redundancy to the userright.

Could run an RFC if someone feels the consensus is not strong enough.

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[Bug 25752] Add userrights necessary for bureaucrat role to bureaucrat usergroup on en.wiki

2010-11-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25752

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--- Comment #5 from Bawolff  2010-11-13 21:57:52 UTC ---
Just to clarify, does this have consensus?
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28proposals%29/Archive_65#Copying_userrights_from_sysop_to_bureaucrat_-_arbitrary_break
 doesn't seem to be overwhelming support for this (although admittedly I
skimmed it very quickly).

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[Bug 25752] Add userrights necessary for bureaucrat role to bureaucrat usergroup on en.wiki

2010-11-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25752

--- Comment #4 from xenocidic  2010-11-13 15:33:57 UTC ---
I don't think Betacommand wrote what you think he did.

And there is something to fix: if a bureaucrat did not have sysop rights they
would be hamstrung in performing their duties. See
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28proposals%29/Archive_65#Copying_userrights_from_sysop_to_bureaucrat_-_arbitrary_break
for deconstruction of this.

Do note that of the seven userrights being added to the bureaucrat right, only
two are presently exclusive to sysop.

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[Bug 25752] Add userrights necessary for bureaucrat role to bureaucrat usergroup on en.wiki

2010-11-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25752

TeleComNasSprVen  changed:

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--- Comment #3 from TeleComNasSprVen  
2010-11-12 08:08:51 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #0)
> Please add the following userrights to the bureaucrat usergroup on en.wiki - 
> 
> move-subpages
> suppressredirect
> tboverride
> apihighlimits
> browsearchive
> deletedhistory
> deletedtext
> 
> They are necessary for the bureaucrat role and should be implicitly included. 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> (imho this should be done globally, but this is filed as a site request)

Per Betacommand, I don't think this is necessary. There's nothing to fix here.

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[Bug 25752] Add userrights necessary for bureaucrat role to bureaucrat usergroup on en.wiki

2010-11-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25752

Betacommand  changed:

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--- Comment #2 from Betacommand  2010-11-02 15:04:57 
UTC ---
sysop != 'crat. Some crats want to be able to remove the +sysop without losing
key rights to preform the crat actions.

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[Bug 25752] Add userrights necessary for bureaucrat role to bureaucrat usergroup on en.wiki

2010-11-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #1 from Brownout  2010-11-02 
15:02:01 UTC ---
Aren't those already included in the sysop flag?

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[Bug 25752] Add userrights necessary for bureaucrat role to bureaucrat usergroup on en.wiki

2010-11-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25752

Reedy  changed:

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