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--- Comment #37 from Phillip Patriakeas dragonlordofxant...@gmail.com ---
(In reply to comment #35)
Phillip: Wikimedia wikis now support Scribunto (cf.
[[mw:Extension:Scribunto]])
and Lua (cf. [[mw:Extension:Scribunto/Lua reference
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--- Comment #35 from MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com ---
Phillip: Wikimedia wikis now support Scribunto (cf. [[mw:Extension:Scribunto]])
and Lua (cf. [[mw:Extension:Scribunto/Lua reference manual]]). This should
provide robust string manipulation
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--- Comment #31 from Rich Farmbrough rich...@farmbrough.co.uk 2011-02-14
14:55:31 UTC ---
I find Mark's confusion only too understandable.
The thrust of the argument against providing extended parser functions (and
most other string handling
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--- Comment #32 from Bawolff bawolff...@gmail.com 2011-02-14 21:05:22 UTC ---
Please, lets not turn this into a re-iteration of the 150 odd comments on bug
6455.
(why it's expensive is a mystery, it should be much
cheaper to find if something
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--- Comment #33 from Phillip Patriakeas dragonlordofxant...@gmail.com
2011-02-14 21:24:18 UTC ---
Template coders very heavily use transclusion as part of the hidden logic of
templates - there are things that are far cheaper and easier to do
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--- Comment #25 from Phillip Patriakeas dragonlordofxant...@gmail.com
2011-02-12 04:56:23 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #24)
Would the installation of
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ParserFunctions fix this?
Please tell me you're
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--- Comment #26 from Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org 2011-02-12
05:21:22 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #25)
Please tell me you're joking...
Not joking, but, as MZ pointed out on IRC, I am ignorant.
It has only been dismissively
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--- Comment #27 from MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com 2011-02-12 05:45:57 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #26)
So it would help developers if it were made clearer here that the thing that
is
wanted is some features enabled or implemented in
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--- Comment #28 from Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org 2011-02-12
05:58:51 UTC ---
But, MZ, I'm not sure how saying StringFunctions isn't going to happen is the
same as saying ParserFunctions can't fill the role. When you say oh, if we
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--- Comment #30 from Phillip Patriakeas dragonlordofxant...@gmail.com
2011-02-12 06:14:20 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #28)
But, MZ, I'm not sure how saying StringFunctions isn't going to happen is
the
same as saying ParserFunctions can't
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--- Comment #17 from Happy-melon happy-me...@live.com 2011-01-04 16:42:53 UTC
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(In reply to comment #16)
I have to agree with Aryeh, there was a pipe-dram about Lua. Now that's dead
this needs escalating.
Escalation is the word,
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--- Comment #18 from Alex Z. mrzmanw...@gmail.com 2011-01-04 17:02:47 UTC ---
(mid-air collision with comment 17)
(In reply to comment #16)
o Happy template writers
And non-template writers? Will they like it when already-complicated
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--- Comment #19 from MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com 2011-01-05 00:24:58 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #18)
Has it actually been shown that the current hacks really are slow? They're
ugly
hacks, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they're
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--- Comment #20 from Alex Z. mrzmanw...@gmail.com 2011-01-05 01:12:34 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #19)
(In reply to comment #18)
Has it actually been shown that the current hacks really are slow? They're
ugly
hacks, but that doesn't
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--- Comment #21 from MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com 2011-01-05 01:21:18 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #20)
I'm referring to the string hacks. I'm aware that the cite templates are slow.
However, while the Obama article uses nearly 200 different
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--- Comment #22 from Alex Z. mrzmanw...@gmail.com 2011-01-05 01:29:07 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #21)
(In reply to comment #20)
I'm referring to the string hacks. I'm aware that the cite templates are
slow.
However, while the Obama
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--- Comment #12 from Alex Z. mrzmanw...@gmail.com 2011-01-03 16:29:37 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #10)
Well, basically we want StringFunctions, but the developers have said no, so
what we really want is something equivalent in power and
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--- Comment #13 from Kevin Norris nykevin.nor...@gmail.com 2011-01-03
20:28:36 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #12)
(In reply to comment #10)
Well, basically we want StringFunctions, but the developers have said no, so
what we really want is
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--- Comment #14 from Alex Z. mrzmanw...@gmail.com 2011-01-03 23:43:36 UTC ---
I only see one person there (Robert Rohde, in comment 16) who could really be
described as an end user who was opposed to Lua. The others are either
developers or
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--- Comment #15 from Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikib...@gmail.com 2011-01-03
23:47:59 UTC ---
The objection to Lua was not on the part of MediaWiki users. The objection was
that it would make Wikipedia content impossible to reuse on shared
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--- Comment #11 from MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com 2011-01-03 07:29:30 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #10)
Well, basically we want StringFunctions, but the developers have said no, so
what we really want is something equivalent in power and
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--- Comment #5 from Chad H. innocentkil...@gmail.com 2010-12-28 22:14:42 UTC
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This should go under extension requests then. Site requests are for
configuration changes, which this is not (since you're so clearly saying this
isn't a dupe of
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--- Comment #6 from Phillip Patriakeas dragonlordofxant...@gmail.com
2010-12-28 22:43:35 UTC ---
That may be; I'm not familiar with the product/component bug landscape, and
just filed this under the categorization that sounded most relevant.
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--- Comment #8 from Phillip Patriakeas dragonlordofxant...@gmail.com
2010-12-29 00:44:54 UTC ---
I'm really not sure - I was never heavily involved in templates that would have
benefited from string parsing myself (though most templates doing
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--- Comment #9 from Happy-melon happy-me...@live.com 2010-12-29 00:49:38 UTC
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(In reply to comment #7)
I am going to regret asking this, but *exactly* which features do you want
this
to have?
As enwiki has demonstrated admirably with
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--- Comment #1 from Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com 2010-11-24 19:18:08 UTC
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Which of them do you want exactly (some functions can be implemented by using
other functions), and how EXACTLY is this bug different from bug 6455 other
than
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--- Comment #3 from MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com 2010-11-24 20:56:31 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #2)
I don't see why this isn't a duplicate of bug 6455. You're not going to get
people turning stuff on when Tim's vetoed it, go ask Tim
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