[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2014-10-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27478

Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Target Milestone|Mysterious future   |---

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2012-09-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27478

--- Comment #46 from Derk-Jan Hartman hartman.w...@gmail.com 2012-09-17 
19:05:16 UTC ---
This has now been done.
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2012-September/063249.html

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2012-09-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27478

Sam Reed (reedy) s...@reedyboy.net changed:

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 Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED
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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2012-09-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27478

Richard Guk richardg...@yahoo.com changed:

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--- Comment #44 from Richard Guk richardg...@yahoo.com 2012-09-05 22:43:16 
UTC ---
Will [[mw:Manual:$wgWellFormedXml]] remain set to true?

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2012-09-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27478

--- Comment #45 from Derk-Jan Hartman hartman.w...@gmail.com 2012-09-05 
23:04:04 UTC ---
 we're scheduling a deployment of HTML5 across the Wikimedia cluster [1]. This
is set for Monday
17th September at 18:00-20:00 UTC [2].

http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2012-September/063112.html

@Richard, as far as I know there has been no talk of changing the
$wgWellFormedXml configuration. Again however, everything relying on that,
probably shouldn't :D

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2012-09-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27478

Derk-Jan Hartman hartman.w...@gmail.com changed:

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2012-09-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27478

--- Comment #40 from Robin Pepermans (SPQRobin) robinp.1...@gmail.com 
2012-09-03 19:24:25 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #39)
 It's August now, and there does not appear to be any serious objections. Is
 this going to be deployed soon?

*bump* And it's September now :) If there are still concerns or possible
problems, maybe first enable it on smaller wikis?

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2012-09-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27478

--- Comment #41 from Sam Reed (reedy) s...@reedyboy.net 2012-09-03 19:28:26 
UTC ---
(In reply to comment #40)
 (In reply to comment #39)
  It's August now, and there does not appear to be any serious objections. Is
  this going to be deployed soon?
 
 *bump* And it's September now :) If there are still concerns or possible
 problems, maybe first enable it on smaller wikis?

I don't think there's anything stopping this... If you want it enabling on some
of the smaller wikis that you can use (and as such possibly help them if they
have problems), I don't mind enabling it more widely too




reedy@fenari:/home/wikipedia/common$ mwscript eval.php testwiki
 var_dump( $wgExperimentalHtmlIds );
bool(false)


^ I suppose I should set that to true on testwiki, test2wiki and mediawikiwiki
for starters


Though:

/**
 * Should we allow a broader set of characters in id attributes, per HTML5?  If
 * not, use only HTML 4-compatible IDs.  This option is for testing -- when the
 * functionality is ready, it will be on by default with no option.
 *
 * Currently this appears to work fine in all browsers, but it's disabled by
 * default because it normalizes id's a bit too aggressively, breaking
preexisting
 * content (particularly Cite).  See bug 27733, bug 27694, bug 27474.
 */
$wgExperimentalHtmlIds = false;

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2012-09-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27478

--- Comment #42 from Derk-Jan Hartman hartman.w...@gmail.com 2012-09-03 
19:34:48 UTC ---
Should remain false per https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27694#c4

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2012-09-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27478

--- Comment #43 from MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com 2012-09-03 19:41:28 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #42)
 Should remain false per 
 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27694#c4

To be clear, you mean that $wgExperimentalHtmlIds should remain false, not
$wgHtml5. :-)

There's a page here for software deployments:
http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/Software_deployments. I suppose this
qualifies. How does this variable ($wgHtml5) get scheduled for a roll-out
deployment?

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2012-08-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27478

Krenair kren...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #39 from Krenair kren...@gmail.com 2012-08-01 23:25:36 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #38)
 As pointed out in comment #13, it only occurs if $wgExperimentalHtmlIds is
 true. Does test.wikipedia.org have this true or false?

It's not mentioned in the config. The default is false.

It's August now, and there does not appear to be any serious objections. Is
this going to be deployed soon?

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2012-07-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Nemo_bis federicol...@tiscali.it changed:

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2012-07-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27478

Bug 27478 depends on bug 36495, which changed state.

Bug 36495 Summary: Sanitizer shouldn't convert align attribute to text-align 
for non-table-cells
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36495

   What|Old Value   |New Value

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution||FIXED

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2012-06-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27478

--- Comment #38 from Brad Jorsch b-jor...@alum.northwestern.edu 2012-07-01 
04:53:41 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #36)
 (In reply to comment #12)
 
 I believe this is bug 27694.

It appears someone copied it from an enwiki post based on comment #12 to a new
bug.

  Also, in HTML4 mode ref name=foo, ref name=_foo_, and ref
  name=''foo'' are all distinct. In HTML5 mode these are all considered
  equivalent.
 
 I'm not sure this is still an issue. Can you take a look at
 https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cite_anchor_equivalency and confirm?

As pointed out in comment #13, it only occurs if $wgExperimentalHtmlIds is
true. Does test.wikipedia.org have this true or false?

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2012-06-29 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27478

--- Comment #36 from MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com 2012-06-30 01:11:13 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #12)
 Several problems on enwiki were caused by the difference in Sanitize::escapeId
 between HTML4 and HTML5 modes.
 
 ref name=foo tries to generate a link in the page something like
 [[#cite_note-foo|[1]]]. In HTML4 mode ref name=foo [[bar]] generates
 [[#cite_note-foo_.5B.5Bbar.5D.5D-0|[1]]] which functions correctly, but in
 HTML5 mode it generates [[#cite_note-foo_[[bar]]-0|[1]]] which of course 
 breaks
 horribly.

I believe this is bug 27694.

 Also, in HTML4 mode ref name=foo, ref name=_foo_, and ref
 name=''foo'' are all distinct. In HTML5 mode these are all considered
 equivalent.

I'm not sure this is still an issue. Can you take a look at
https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cite_anchor_equivalency and confirm?

Are there any other known Cite-related issues?

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2012-06-29 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #37 from mybugs.m...@gmail.com 2012-06-30 01:20:11 UTC ---
As reported on
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)?oldid=499977666#HTML5_is_comming_.28again.29
it seems to be working on
https://test2.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2012-06-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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mybugs.m...@gmail.com changed:

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2012-06-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27478

--- Comment #35 from Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org 2012-06-28 21:18:50 UTC 
---
Discussion started on wikitech-l:
See http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical/62146

If there are no serious objections, we'll set a date for sometime in July. 
Exact date will be set here:
http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/Software_deployments , and should get
reflected back to this bug.

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2012-05-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Depends on||36495

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2012-05-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #32 from Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com 2012-05-11 07:09:46 UTC 
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Why is this scheduled for the mysterious future?

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2012-05-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #33 from Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com 2012-05-11 08:36:31 UTC ---
Well, basically when a bug is accepted and is agreed to be executed it gets a
milestone. This one was scheduled for 1.18wmf1 deployment but that didn't
happen.

Since then a blocking bug was added, which hasn't been fixed yet. So whatever
milestone set, will be useless since the blocking bug needs to be fixed first.

Mysterious future basically means 1.(next) release. Which is postponed
until it can be done. But it has been assigned to be in a release. Just not
sure yet which one, depending on the dependencies.

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2012-05-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #34 from p858snake p858sn...@gmail.com 2012-05-11 08:43:07 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #33)
 Since then a blocking bug was added, which hasn't been fixed yet. So whatever
 milestone set, will be useless since the blocking bug needs to be fixed first.

Read the bug, It doesn't really block this getting done. In fact this will
kinda fix it (if we are both talking about 34475).


We should just get around to setting a date and give warning then flipping the
switch, Tool authors have been warned several times already that this will be
happening and if they still haven't updated, well…

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2012-05-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Target Milestone|--- |Mysterious future

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2012-03-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27478

Bug 27478 depends on bug 31794, which changed state.

Bug 31794 Summary: [svn/users.php] Switch to HTML5 \o/
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31794

   What|Old Value   |New Value

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution||FIXED

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2012-03-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com changed:

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 Depends on|31794   |

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2012-02-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Derk-Jan Hartman hart...@videolan.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Blocks||34475

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2012-01-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Derk-Jan Hartman hart...@videolan.org changed:

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--- Comment #30 from Derk-Jan Hartman hart...@videolan.org 2012-01-09 
22:06:34 UTC ---
Can we test this on labs perhaps, like straight after the 1.19 deploy perhaps ?

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2012-01-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #31 from Reedy s...@reedyboy.net 2012-01-09 22:35:12 UTC ---
it's enabled on mediawiki.org noww

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2011-12-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords||platformeng
 CC||ro...@wikimedia.org

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2011-11-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org changed:

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--- Comment #27 from Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org 2011-11-16 08:10:19 
UTC ---
BTW, I did an informal inventory of display issues caused by switching
mediaWiki to HTML5 (due to the rendering mode change from semi-quirks to strict
in some browsers). The only issue I saw that was noticeable was the placement
of the magnifying glass button in the search field (It displays slightly lower
on HTML5 wikis). I imagine other display issues will be present, but that's the
only one I could find (testing on 1.17 and 1.18).

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2011-11-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #28 from Phillip Patriakeas dragonlordofxant...@gmail.com 
2011-11-16 09:19:57 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #27)
 BTW, I did an informal inventory of display issues caused by switching
 mediaWiki to HTML5 (due to the rendering mode change from semi-quirks to 
 strict
 in some browsers). The only issue I saw that was noticeable was the placement
 of the magnifying glass button in the search field (It displays slightly lower
 on HTML5 wikis). I imagine other display issues will be present, but that's 
 the
 only one I could find (testing on 1.17 and 1.18).

That sounds like bug 32025 (took me forever to find that _ )...

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2011-11-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Depends on||30525

--- Comment #29 from Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org 2011-11-16 18:27:28 
UTC ---
Actually, it's bug 30525. I've added it as a dependency.

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2011-10-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Depends on||31794

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2011-10-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Derk-Jan Hartman hart...@videolan.org changed:

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2011-09-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Reedy s...@reedyboy.net changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Blocks||29876

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2011-08-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #25 from Reedy s...@reedyboy.net 2011-08-22 16:07:27 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #24)
 could we perhaps enable this on mw wiki to start testing on a more 
 contentish
 wiki compared to just test and test2?

We could... I'm not sure if we need to go the effort of 101 mailing list posts,
or it's just a JFDI and deal with the issues as they come up

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2011-08-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #26 from Reedy s...@reedyboy.net 2011-08-22 17:18:54 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #25)
 (In reply to comment #24)
  could we perhaps enable this on mw wiki to start testing on a more 
  contentish
  wiki compared to just test and test2?
 
 We could... I'm not sure if we need to go the effort of 101 mailing list 
 posts,
 or it's just a JFDI and deal with the issues as they come up

Done.

Step 1 complete

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2011-08-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #24 from p858snake p858sn...@gmail.com 2011-08-20 02:32:48 UTC ---
could we perhaps enable this on mw wiki to start testing on a more contentish
wiki compared to just test and test2?

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2011-08-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #22 from Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikib...@gmail.com 2011-08-18 
16:42:27 UTC ---
It turns out I'll likely be available to give advice for longer than I thought,
at least until mid-October and possibly for months beyond that.

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2011-08-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #23 from Reedy s...@reedyboy.net 2011-08-18 16:58:32 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #22)
 It turns out I'll likely be available to give advice for longer than I 
 thought,
 at least until mid-October and possibly for months beyond that.

That's useful to know, but shouldn't leave it to the end either.

I'll see about getting it bumped up the priority list in the near future

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2011-08-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Arthur Richards aricha...@wikimedia.org changed:

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--- Comment #19 from Arthur Richards aricha...@wikimedia.org 2011-08-17 
23:53:04 UTC ---
Is there an ETA for this?

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2011-08-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Reedy s...@reedyboy.net changed:

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--- Comment #20 from Reedy s...@reedyboy.net 2011-08-17 23:55:01 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #19)
 Is there an ETA for this?

Ideally we want to get this somewhat done before Aryeh is on long term leave
(from the internet).

I keep finding enough other stuff to do, so haven't got round to it. Hopefully
when I get the Metrics stuff out of the way.

Is it blocking you for something?

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2011-08-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #21 from Arthur Richards aricha...@wikimedia.org 2011-08-18 
00:07:22 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #20) 
 Is it blocking you for something?

It's blocking my GSoC mentee (Yuvi - porting WP1.0 bot to Mediawiki extension).
 We're a few weeks away from being ready for deployment on the cluster, so I'm
hoping to get a sense of when this'll be resolved for planning/etc.  And to
make sure this is still on the radar :p

Thanks Reedy!

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2011-07-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Reedy s...@reedyboy.net changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Blocks||19719

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2011-06-29 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27478

--- Comment #18 from Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com 2011-06-29 14:38:15 
UTC ---
(In reply to comment #16)
 The best summary of the remaining issues (and a path for re-deployment) can be
 found here:
 http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2011-June/053775.html.

Some clarifications on the deployment plan, after talking to Aryeh on IRC:

Stage 1: Set the doctype to HTML 4.01 strict. This is done by setting
$wgDocType = '-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN'; and $wgDTD =
'http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd'; . Per Aryeh's post this should only
cause minor layout issues (category 1 in Aryeh's post).

Stage 2: Once any issues from stage 1 are fixed, set an HTML5 doctype without
enabling $wgHtml5. Because the doctype tag is structured differently, you can't
use $wgDocType / $wgDTD but you have to live hack it in. In Html::htmlHeader(),
change the if ( $wgHtml5 ) test to something like if ( $wgHtml5 ||
$wgSomethingElse ) or if ( $wgHtml5 || true ) or whatever you like. This may
and probably will lead to category 2 breakage.

Stage 3: Once that's working, actually set $wgHtml5 = true; . Category 3
breakage possible.

Once everything has been running smoothly for a couple of days, take out the
live hack and the $wgDocType / $wgDTD settings.

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2011-06-24 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #17 from Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org 2011-06-24 
21:34:53 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #16)
 Really this just needs a sysadmin with the time and patience to shepherd this
 through. Mark (of Bugmeister fame) should probably assign this to someone.

Message heard! Action being taken!

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2011-06-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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CBM c...@tools.wikimedia.de changed:

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--- Comment #15 from CBM c...@tools.wikimedia.de 2011-06-24 01:15:30 UTC ---
This is blocking some work for a GSOC project to improve the article assessment
system on enwiki. If there is nothing blocking any longer, it would be nice to
see wgHtml5 re-enabled. I'm just commenting here to bump the bug.

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2011-06-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #16 from MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com 2011-06-24 04:11:03 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #15)
 This is blocking some work for a GSOC project to improve the article 
 assessment
 system on enwiki. If there is nothing blocking any longer, it would be nice to
 see wgHtml5 re-enabled. I'm just commenting here to bump the bug.

The best summary of the remaining issues (and a path for re-deployment) can be
found here:
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2011-June/053775.html.

Really this just needs a sysadmin with the time and patience to shepherd this
through. Mark (of Bugmeister fame) should probably assign this to someone.

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2011-02-24 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Reedy s...@reedyboy.net changed:

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 Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED
 Resolution|FIXED   |

--- Comment #7 from Reedy s...@reedyboy.net 2011-02-24 13:23:58 UTC ---
logmsgbot !log demon synchronized php-1.17/wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php 
'Turning HTML5 back off for now. Reports of breakage on zhwiki in Internet
Explorer on XP. Also people are complaining about userscripts breaking, but its
probably screen scraping (which people shouldn't be doing anyway and we've been
saying for years)'

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2011-02-24 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #8 from Reedy s...@reedyboy.net 2011-02-24 13:24:43 UTC ---
See bug 27677 for zhwiki

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2011-02-24 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Chad H. innocentkil...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #9 from Chad H. innocentkil...@gmail.com 2011-02-24 13:36:17 UTC 
---
Turns out zhwiki issue is unrelated, oh well.

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2011-02-24 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #10 from Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikib...@gmail.com 2011-02-24 
15:01:49 UTC ---
Since the zhwiki issue is unrelated, can this be turned back on?  If we care
about regex screen-scrapers for some reason, then relay the exact errors people
are getting so I can take a look and see what I can do.

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2011-02-24 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #11 from AlexSm alexsm...@gmail.com 2011-02-24 16:09:22 UTC ---
You explained exactly the same error with scraping in 2009:
[[Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 67#Twinkle stalling]]

Also bug 27672 was filed yesterday.

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2011-02-24 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Brad Jorsch b-jor...@alum.northwestern.edu changed:

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--- Comment #12 from Brad Jorsch b-jor...@alum.northwestern.edu 2011-02-24 
17:38:31 UTC ---
Several problems on enwiki were caused by the difference in Sanitize::escapeId
between HTML4 and HTML5 modes.

ref name=foo tries to generate a link in the page something like
[[#cite_note-foo|[1]]]. In HTML4 mode ref name=foo [[bar]] generates
[[#cite_note-foo_.5B.5Bbar.5D.5D-0|[1]]] which functions correctly, but in
HTML5 mode it generates [[#cite_note-foo_[[bar]]-0|[1]]] which of course breaks
horribly.

Also, in HTML4 mode ref name=foo, ref name=_foo_, and ref
name=''foo'' are all distinct. In HTML5 mode these are all considered
equivalent.

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2011-02-24 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #13 from Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikib...@gmail.com 2011-02-24 
18:12:08 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #11)
 You explained exactly the same error with scraping in 2009:
 [[Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 67#Twinkle stalling]]
 
 Also bug 27672 was filed yesterday.

This suggests maybe some named entities have crept through, or some other type
of well-formedness.  It would be nice if people said which exact pages failed,
but it would probably be possible to figure it out.  I'm guessing it's the
result of messages being passed as raw HTML and sysops adding named entities to
them, but it could be something else too.

The easy way out would be to restore the old hack where we serve HTML5 with an
HTML 4.01 Strict doctype, which is valid HTML5 but rather confusing.  This is
how 1.16 works by default.  That way a DTD is specified, which means that
non-browser UAs will parse named entities successfully.  We can consider
switching back to the HTML5 doctype later.

(In reply to comment #12)
 Several problems on enwiki were caused by the difference in Sanitize::escapeId
 between HTML4 and HTML5 modes.

Hmm.  This should be disable-able by setting $wgExperimentalHtmlIds to false,
leaving $wgHtml5 true (which might leave well-formedness issues).  A proper fix
will require some more thought, though.  The changes to escapeId() are really
meant for headings, but we can't realistically distinguish wikilinks meant to
point at headings from wikilinks meant to point at other things.

In practice, it looks like Cite is the major problem here (with the id's), and
it can probably be fixed.  My first inclination is to just generate arbitrary
id's for named refs instead of trying to key off the names.

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2011-02-24 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #14 from Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikib...@gmail.com 2011-02-24 
18:12:50 UTC ---
For reference, from #wikimedia-tech (contains some additional links that should
be checked when fixing):

[110224 11:45:22] RoanKattouw AryehGregor:
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Vpt#More_than_Twinkle_is_broken
, https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Vpt#Merged_Reflinks
,
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Vpt#Recent_Javascript_changes
[110224 11:46:53] RoanKattouw_away AryehGregor: Due to those issues, HTML 5
was switched back off today

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2011-02-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com changed:

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 Resolution||FIXED

--- Comment #6 from Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com 2011-02-23 17:10:30 
UTC ---
Enabled

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5

2011-02-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Niklas Laxström niklas.laxst...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #3 from Niklas Laxström niklas.laxst...@gmail.com 2011-02-18 
08:08:15 UTC ---
I'm sure lots of entities have crept in, since nobody has been enforcing that
(I've made few comments in code review).

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5

2011-02-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #4 from Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org 2011-02-18 
15:49:23 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #3)
 I'm sure lots of entities have crept in, since nobody has been enforcing that
 (I've made few comments in code review).

Could you point to an example of this in code review so that I know what to
look for?

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5

2011-02-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #5 from Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikib...@gmail.com 2011-02-18 
18:59:16 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #3)
 I'm sure lots of entities have crept in, since nobody has been enforcing that
 (I've made few comments in code review).

Should be fixed by and large in r82413.  Some corner cases will surely come up
anyway in deployment, because of things like messages being output as raw HTML
and admins putting entities in them, but it shouldn't be too hard to fix. 
Worst that happens is some screen-scrapers temporarily break.  I originally
discussed this with Brion and Tim and they agreed the extra long-term pain for
screen-scrapers was an okay risk (maybe even a good thing!).

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis

2011-02-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com changed:

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Summary|Enable $wgHtml5 |Enable $wgHtml5 on
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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5

2011-02-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org 2011-02-17 
16:43:46 UTC ---
How could we find fixable items?  Would loading a dump and checking for pages
that weren't well-formed work?

I'm interested b/c this tickles my inner XML nerd.

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[Bug 27478] Enable $wgHtml5

2011-02-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikib...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #2 from Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikib...@gmail.com 2011-02-18 
00:01:07 UTC ---
The problem wouldn't be in pages, it would be in code.  The code should always
still output well-formed XML, but there might be bugs.  Well-formedness errors
from anything run through the parser should be a nonissue, but special pages or
such that output stuff directly might sneak in some entities, in which case
that page would break.

(Of course, you've always been able to get the parser to output non-well-formed
output, even in non-HTML5 mode.  Some of the expected fails in parser tests
exhibit this.)

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