[Bug 27754] Two archaic Greek letters in TeX

2011-10-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Brion Vibber  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED
 Resolution||FIXED

--- Comment #23 from Brion Vibber  2011-10-05 22:49:20 UTC 
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Re-resolving.

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[Bug 27754] Two archaic Greek letters in TeX

2011-10-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #22 from Bawolff  2011-10-05 22:43:02 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #21)
> It turns out the problem _was_ with MathJax, and it's fixed now.  Thanks to
> everyone who worked on this (I probably have no way of being sure who those
> are.)

Well there was some discussion at
[[mw:Requests_for_comment/Reduce_math_rendering_preferences]], but basically
whenever someone does it (patches welcome :)

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[Bug 27754] Two archaic Greek letters in TeX

2011-10-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #21 from Michael Hardy  2011-10-05 22:01:15 UTC 
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It turns out the problem _was_ with MathJax, and it's fixed now.  Thanks to
everyone who worked on this (I probably have no way of being sure who those
are.)

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[Bug 27754] Two archaic Greek letters in TeX

2011-10-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #20 from Michael Hardy  2011-10-05 21:02:48 UTC 
---
"While mathjax is something neither maintained nor supported by us (MediaWiki
developers)"

This prompts the question of when _that_ will change.  Does anybody know
anything?

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[Bug 27754] Two archaic Greek letters in TeX

2011-10-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #19 from Bawolff  2011-10-05 20:26:08 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #18)
> Sorry---I had that backwards: It's working when I'm __not__ logged in, but not
> when I _am_ logged in.

While mathjax is something neither maintained nor supported by us (MediaWiki
developers) (We're not opposed to it, we just don't really have anything to do
with it). Thus the issue should probably be taken up with the mathjax folks.

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[Bug 27754] Two archaic Greek letters in TeX

2011-10-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #18 from Michael Hardy  2011-10-05 20:21:07 UTC 
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Sorry---I had that backwards: It's working when I'm __not__ logged in, but not
when I _am_ logged in.

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[Bug 27754] Two archaic Greek letters in TeX

2011-10-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #17 from Michael Hardy  2011-10-05 20:09:23 UTC 
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I now suspect that what's happening is that it's working when I _am_ logged in
and not when I'm not logged in.  That suggests the problem might be with
MathJax.

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[Bug 27754] Two archaic Greek letters in TeX

2011-10-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #16 from Bawolff  2011-10-05 20:06:18 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #13)
> I looked at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Michael_Hardy/scratchwork 
> several
> hours ago and was delighted to see this now working.
> 
> But NOW it NO LONGER WORKS.
> 
> Does anyone know what's going on?

Works for me (both logged in and logged out)

If you're not logged in from the browsers where it doesn't work, my immediate
guess would be something stuck in squid cache (in which case an edit should
purge old caches)

This should not be browser/OS dependant in anyway, most likely some of the
different browsers you're trying are just getting a cached version (or at least
that would be my initial guess. Given it appears to be working for me, I don't
really know)

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[Bug 27754] Two archaic Greek letters in TeX

2011-10-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Michael Hardy  changed:

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 Resolution|FIXED   |

--- Comment #15 from Michael Hardy  2011-10-05 19:28:05 UTC 
---
It doesn't work on firefox the Linux machine I'm using at the University of
Minnesota.  It has worked on a few browsers, but apparently not on most.

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[Bug 27754] Two archaic Greek letters in TeX

2011-10-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #14 from Michael Hardy  2011-10-05 17:09:58 UTC 
---
This morning it worked on firefox on my home computer.  The it DID NOT WORK on
internet explorer on a machine at Bush Library at Hamline University.  A few
minutes ago it again worked on firefox on my home computer.  NOW it's not
working on firefox on my home computer but IS working on internet explorer on
my home computer.

I plan to use these heavily in an article if they're ever working reliably, but
that has to wait until they're working reliably.  Is there some realistic
chance that that will happen some day?

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[Bug 27754] Two archaic Greek letters in TeX

2011-10-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #13 from Michael Hardy  2011-10-05 16:17:38 UTC 
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I looked at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Michael_Hardy/scratchwork several
hours ago and was delighted to see this now working.

But NOW it NO LONGER WORKS.

Does anyone know what's going on?

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[Bug 27754] Two archaic Greek letters in TeX

2011-10-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Roan Kattouw  changed:

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--- Comment #12 from Roan Kattouw  2011-10-02 17:40:31 
UTC ---
(In reply to comment #11)
> Did the MediaWiki 1.18 deployment in September fail to happen?  At
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Michael_Hardy/scratchwork , near the top of
> the page, you see attempts to use \koppa, \coppa, and \stigma.  They don't
> work.
1.18 is now deployed to some wikis, but not to enwiki yet. See
http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/09/16/mediawiki118iscomin/ for the full
schedule.

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[Bug 27754] Two archaic Greek letters in TeX

2011-10-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #11 from Michael Hardy  2011-10-02 13:03:16 UTC 
---
Did the MediaWiki 1.18 deployment in September fail to happen?  At
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Michael_Hardy/scratchwork , near the top of
the page, you see attempts to use \koppa, \coppa, and \stigma.  They don't
work.

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[Bug 27754] Two archaic Greek letters in TeX

2011-09-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #10 from Michael Hardy  2011-09-16 22:14:09 UTC 
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I look forward to this deployment.  I'll use it in some excerpts from Ptolemy's
table of chords, in the article on that topic.  I'll be surprised if there
aren't lots of other articles it can be used in.

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[Bug 27754] Two archaic Greek letters in TeX

2011-09-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #9 from Brion Vibber  2011-09-13 22:15:43 UTC 
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Reapplied with test cases on r97014.

Updates should go out with the MediaWiki 1.18 deployment this month (September
2011).

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[Bug 27754] Two archaic Greek letters in TeX

2011-05-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #8 from Nicholas Longo  2011-05-16 19:36:37 UTC 
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@Michael.  To be honest I am not sure.  That requires someone with shell access
to recompile the updated software.  I am a bit new to mediawiki hacking  and
don't yet understand their release cycle, and I understand even less how
wikimedia chooses which versions of mediawiki to use.


I think the next step might be to open a new bug with Product wikimedia asking
them to update the version of Texvc.

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[Bug 27754] Two archaic Greek letters in TeX

2011-05-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #7 from Michael Hardy  2011-05-13 16:15:36 UTC 
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@Nicholas: When would that update happen?

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[Bug 27754] Two archaic Greek letters in TeX

2011-05-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #6 from Michael Hardy  2011-05-13 15:55:49 UTC 
---
@Nicholas: When would that update happen?

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[Bug 27754] Two archaic Greek letters in TeX

2011-05-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Nicholas Longo  changed:

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 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution||FIXED

--- Comment #5 from Nicholas Longo  2011-05-02 21:22:09 UTC 
---
Revision r87298 adds the requested characters, as well as a few other archaic
greek letters.  There doesn't seem to be an issue with \digamma.  The
characters defined are textmode symbols.  Presumably the comprehensive symbol
list is warning that in text mode \digamma will no longer render the same way. 
But with the current implementation, \digamma\koppa will generate
the latex code $$\digamma \mbox{\koppa}$$, and \digamma still uses the amssymb
defintion.

Of course, it will not be possible use this feature to update [[Ptolomey's
table of chords]] immediately.  First the wikimedia system admins will need to
update the install of texvc.

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[Bug 27754] Two archaic Greek letters in TeX

2011-04-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #4 from Michael Hardy  2011-04-30 19:50:29 UTC 
---
Thank you, Nicholas.  If this can be made to work in a visually appealing way,
I will use it to further edit [[Ptolemy's table of chords]].

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[Bug 27754] Two archaic Greek letters in TeX

2011-04-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Nicholas Longo  changed:

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--- Comment #3 from Nicholas Longo  2011-04-28 21:51:13 UTC 
---
I will work on this, though there is a small issue regarding \digamma, the
package that defines these symbols is called "teubner", but as noted on page 97
of the comprehensive symbols list:
http://ctan.math.utah.edu/ctan/tex-archive/info/symbols/comprehensive/symbols-letter.pdf

this package will redefine \digamma, which is already defined the amssymb.  The
package teubner always wins out, despite the loading order of the ams pacakge. 
There are two ways to handle this that occur to me.  

The easiest is to allow the replacement, causing the occasional font mismatch
for the symbol \digamma, the second option would be to explicitly error and not
create a png.  But I am open to suggestions/ideas.

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[Bug 27754] Two archaic Greek letters in TeX

2011-02-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #2 from Michael Hardy  2011-02-27 01:36:37 UTC 
---
But mixing things in math tags with things not in math tags usually results in
visually horrifying mismatches in size, alignment, etc.

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[Bug 27754] Two archaic Greek letters in TeX

2011-02-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Bawolff  changed:

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 CC||bawolff...@gmail.com
  Component|General/Unknown |texvc
Version|wikimedia-deployment|any
Product|MediaWiki   |MediaWiki extensions

--- Comment #1 from Bawolff  2011-02-27 01:14:31 UTC ---
As an aside, stigma characters can be typed normally (outside of math tags)
using 
Ϛ and ϛ (similar codes exist for Koppa).

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