[Bug 31986] Fix gender in user namespaces for Portuguese wikis
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31986 --- Comment #11 from Gerrit Notification Bot --- Change 29761 abandoned by Siebrand: (bug 31986) Add user namespace aliases for all genders and varieties Reason: I'm abandoning this given the open issues that haven't been addressed in the past year. Can be restored if wanted. https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29761 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 31986] Fix gender in user namespaces for Portuguese wikis
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31986 Andre Klapper changed: What|Removed |Added Whiteboard|gci2013 | |https://www.mediawiki.org/w | |iki/Google_Code-In#Candidat | |e_tasks | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 31986] Fix gender in user namespaces for Portuguese wikis
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31986 Jared Zimmerman (WMF) changed: What|Removed |Added CC||jared.zimmerman@wikimedia.o ||rg Whiteboard||gci2013 ||https://www.mediawiki.org/w ||iki/Google_Code-In#Candidat ||e_tasks -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 31986] Fix gender in user namespaces for Portuguese wikis
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31986 Nemo changed: What|Removed |Added CC||federicol...@tiscali.it --- Comment #10 from Nemo --- (In reply to comment #9) > (In reply to comment #8) > > How so? They are the "neutral" form, which should be the ones shown by > > default. > > In that case, please make it so in the patch, because its not. They're > aliases > now. Heldir, still planning to work on this? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 31986] Fix gender in user namespaces for Portuguese wikis
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31986 Andre Klapper changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords|patch-in-gerrit | Status|ASSIGNED|PATCH_TO_REVIEW -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 31986] Fix gender in user namespaces for Portuguese wikis
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31986 --- Comment #9 from Siebrand 2012-10-24 21:40:23 UTC --- (In reply to comment #8) > How so? They are the "neutral" form, which should be the ones shown by > default. In that case, please make it so in the patch, because its not. They're aliases now. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 31986] Fix gender in user namespaces for Portuguese wikis
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31986 --- Comment #8 from mybugs.m...@gmail.com 2012-10-24 20:57:24 UTC --- How so? They are the "neutral" form, which should be the ones shown by default. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 31986] Fix gender in user namespaces for Portuguese wikis
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31986 --- Comment #7 from Siebrand 2012-10-24 13:43:12 UTC --- In gerrit 29761 all the names with -o(a) are over-engineering. Please remove those. Adding this because Amir asked me to ask it here. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 31986] Fix gender in user namespaces for Portuguese wikis
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31986 Amir E. Aharoni changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords|patch, patch-need-review|patch-in-gerrit Status|NEW |ASSIGNED CC||amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.i ||l AssignedTo|wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia. |amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.i |org |l --- Comment #6 from Amir E. Aharoni 2012-10-24 10:32:37 UTC --- Patch in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/29761/ . I was reluctant to change the default namespace names - there should be a wider consensus for that, and AFAIK it will also require more technical maintenance to working wikis. Just making all possible links work seems enough to me, but I'm open to suggestions. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 31986] Fix gender in user namespaces for Portuguese wikis
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31986 Nemo_bis changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks||30443 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 31986] Fix gender in user namespaces for Portuguese wikis
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31986 --- Comment #5 from Waldir 2012-01-12 13:39:33 UTC --- Upon revisiting the issue, I don't think the patch to fix this should include duplicating namespace names from MessagesPt_br.php into MessagesPt.php, or vice-versa, as the patch does[1]. I believe this bug actually describes two issues, that should be separate: 1) the neutral user namespace in Portuguese should (arguably) be changed to "Utilizador(a)" 2) the messages from a fallback message should work as aliases for the main language, even if they are defined (the same way the canonical English forms work). Probably this bug should be restricted to issue 1), with the second issue spawned into a different bug. __ [1] in any case, should that approach be used, the "Usuário(a)" and "Usuário(a) Discussão" forms are missing in MessagesPt.php's $namespaceAliases. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 31986] Fix gender in user namespaces for Portuguese wikis
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31986 --- Comment #4 from Waldir 2011-11-28 12:47:46 UTC --- (In reply to comment #3) > I'm not keen of using foo(a) forms, though. Would prefer to see some more > support from users that it is indeed the right thing to do in Portuguese (not > in being valid language, but what would be used normally). It is fairly normal in Portuguese to use the foo(a) form. It is also common, though, to use the male form to refer to both genders when it's undisclosed or when we're referring to a group of mixed genders. The former is probably more semantically correct, so this in a way is a choice between "de jure" (theoretical) correctness, versus "de facto" (practical) correctness. In the end, it's not a big deal, since most people won't be especially bothered either way, as both methods are common. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 31986] Fix gender in user namespaces for Portuguese wikis
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31986 Sumana Harihareswara changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||i18n, patch -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 31986] Fix gender in user namespaces for Portuguese wikis
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31986 Platonides changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords|shell |need-review CC||platoni...@gmail.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 31986] Fix gender in user namespaces for Portuguese wikis
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31986 --- Comment #3 from Platonides 2011-11-14 15:11:14 UTC --- Created attachment 9444 --> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=9444 Proposed fix I think the attached patch fixes it (I also added some more aliases that were missing). I'm assuming $namespaceNames['NS_USER'] is the used namespace when there's no specific gender. I'm not keen of using foo(a) forms, though. Would prefer to see some more support from users that it is indeed the right thing to do in Portuguese (not in being valid language, but what would be used normally). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 31986] Fix gender in user namespaces for Portuguese wikis
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31986 --- Comment #2 from Reedy 2011-11-14 15:00:30 UTC --- You realise putting them in images makes it harder, right? ;) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 31986] Fix gender in user namespaces for Portuguese wikis
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31986 Mark A. Hershberger changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks|28425 | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 31986] Fix gender in user namespaces for Portuguese wikis
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31986 mybugs.m...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Version|unspecified |1.18 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 31986] Fix gender in user namespaces for Portuguese wikis
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31986 Mark A. Hershberger changed: What|Removed |Added Priority|Unprioritized |Normal CC||m...@everybody.org -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 31986] Fix gender in user namespaces for Portuguese wikis
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31986 --- Comment #1 from mybugs.m...@gmail.com 2011-10-27 12:36:11 UTC --- Created attachment 9291 --> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=9291 Links to NS_USER and NS_USER_TALK -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
