[Bug 40240] view source on Main_Page should be an edit to the sandbox
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40240 Antoine hashar Musso has...@free.fr changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |WONTFIX --- Comment #9 from Antoine hashar Musso has...@free.fr --- Lets close this bug entirely. I have filled it back in 2012 following a talk by someone at a Wikimedia conference. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 40240] view source on Main_Page should be an edit to the sandbox
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40240 --- Comment #10 from Benjamin Mako Hill m...@atdot.cc --- What do you mean by filled it? The bug as described certainly still exists. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 40240] view source on Main_Page should be an edit to the sandbox
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40240 --- Comment #11 from Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org --- Hi Mako! There were many opinions and ideas shared in this report. Any thoughts to make this discussion productive, and maybe make this request implementable? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 40240] view source on Main_Page should be an edit to the sandbox
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40240 --- Comment #12 from Antoine hashar Musso has...@free.fr --- Benjamin proposed the idea originally :-) Maybe Editor Engagement can be pointed at this idea and figure out a feature that could be A/B tested to figure out whether that converts readers to actual editors? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 40240] view source on Main_Page should be an edit to the sandbox
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40240 Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added CC||jared.zimmerman@wikimedia.o ||rg Version|1.21.0 |1.23-git --- Comment #8 from Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org --- Or Edit [lock icon] as an optional substitute of View source in all cases (not only the homepage)? For most users this message is clearer than View source. It also makes a permanent position for an Edit option, that users will see sometimes with a lock icon added, only when they don't have permissions to edit. The lock icon would add a visual cue that is already used to identify protected pages, and would avoid any changes in the current workflow or strings. No redirect to sandbox, no new translations needed. Just wondering, do we have any (SVG based) lock icon being used in the MediaWiki UI? Otherwise see e.g. http://thenounproject.com/term/lock/30188/ or the many alternatives in the public domain. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 40240] view source on Main_Page should be an edit to the sandbox
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40240 Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added CC||krinklem...@gmail.com, ||m...@atdot.cc, ||q...@wikimedia.org, ||wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia. ||org Component|General/Unknown |Interface --- Comment #7 from Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org --- What about simply changing View source by Edit protected? Not only for the Main page, but for all cases where View source would be shown. View source doesn't tell much to average people. Edit protected contains two familiar words: the characteristic Edit and the term protected that everybody understands. Being this label a link, it invites more to click and see what is going on. Protected and semi-protected pages have quite clear informative banners already e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Pageaction=edit -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 40240] view source on Main_Page should be an edit to the sandbox
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40240 Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added Priority|Unprioritized |Normal Version|1.20.0 |1.21-git -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 40240] view source on Main_Page should be an edit to the sandbox
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40240 Nischay Nahata nischay...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||nischay...@gmail.com --- Comment #6 from Nischay Nahata nischay...@gmail.com --- (In reply to comment #0) When people land on the wiki main page, they are usually being shown a view source which would mean to them that they can not edit the wiki. A possible feature would be to replace the text by edit and send the user to a sandboxing page. This way, they will know they can edit the wiki :-] Many times I click on view source to learn wikitext, I would be really disappointed and confused on being directed to Sandbox. Its enough to have a label saying 'You can't edit this page' and a tutorial would be nice too. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 40240] view source on Main_Page should be an edit to the sandbox
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40240 --- Comment #4 from Antoine hashar Musso has...@free.fr 2012-09-24 09:13:04 UTC --- (In reply to comment #3) Yeah, that would seem hella confusing to get sent to some other page. Indeed, maybe the link can send them instead to a page dedicated to welcoming newcomers ? Kind of like the UploadWizard has a basic tutorial picture. Also, do people really spend time on the main page? I'd think most readers are coming in at articles... Hard to say without click tracking, but the enwiki Main_Page definitely has a lot of traffic. According to http://stats.grok.se/en/top it received 15Millions views so far in September. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 40240] view source on Main_Page should be an edit to the sandbox
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40240 --- Comment #5 from Bawolff bawolff...@gmail.com 2012-09-24 17:10:37 UTC --- (In reply to comment #4) (In reply to comment #3) Yeah, that would seem hella confusing to get sent to some other page. Indeed, maybe the link can send them instead to a page dedicated to welcoming newcomers ? Kind of like the UploadWizard has a basic tutorial picture. I bet the users could probably already do that by putting parser funcs in various mediawiki ns messages. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 40240] view source on Main_Page should be an edit to the sandbox
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40240 Dereckson dereck...@espace-win.org changed: What|Removed |Added CC||dereck...@espace-win.org --- Comment #1 from Dereckson dereck...@espace-win.org 2012-09-13 18:49:14 UTC --- This is a good idea to increase new contributors awareness the wiki is modifiable. But in the same time, we would be teaching people the edit link doesn't modify the current page but instead lead to a sandbox. I'm not sure this is a good idea. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 40240] view source on Main_Page should be an edit to the sandbox
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40240 Bawolff bawolff...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||bawolff...@gmail.com --- Comment #2 from Bawolff bawolff...@gmail.com 2012-09-13 18:51:40 UTC --- I also feel this would cause confusion. perhaps a link from the view source page to a sandbox though -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 40240] view source on Main_Page should be an edit to the sandbox
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40240 --- Comment #3 from Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org 2012-09-13 23:44:54 UTC --- Yeah, that would seem hella confusing to get sent to some other page. Also, do people really spend time on the main page? I'd think most readers are coming in at articles... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
