[Bug 42138] VisualEditor: Toolbar Save page button is confusing as it merely opens the dialog to save the page

2014-02-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42138

James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org changed:

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   Assignee|krinklem...@gmail.com   |jforrester+veteambztickets@
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[Bug 42138] VisualEditor: Toolbar Save page button is confusing as it merely opens the dialog to save the page

2013-07-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42138

This, that and the other at.li...@live.com.au changed:

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--- Comment #4 from This, that and the other at.li...@live.com.au ---
There have been a lot of complaints about this on the enwiki feedback page. One
especially interesting point was raised by the ever-wise John Broughton:

---
[Save page] is the same label as on the button, in the old editing interface,
that completed the edit session. Lots of effort has been made, over the years,
to encourage editors to write an edit summary before they click Save page,
and now VE is designed exactly the opposite. The button ought to be labeled
Finish edit or Continue or Final steps or just about anything other than
Save page.

The current problem is even worse than just one poorly labeled button. In VE,
after clicking Save page, a dialog box appears that also has a Save page
button. So now an editor has to understand that the two Save page buttons do
not do the same thing. And documentation (when it's written) is going to have
to clarify which Save page button is being referred to - unless the label on
the first occurrence of Save page is changed, as it should be.
---

The button label on enwiki was modified to Finish edit per
[[MediaWiki:Visualeditor-toolbar-savedialog]].

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[Bug 42138] VisualEditor: Toolbar Save page button is confusing as it merely opens the dialog to save the page

2013-07-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42138

Steven Walling swall...@wikimedia.org changed:

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--- Comment #5 from Steven Walling swall...@wikimedia.org ---
This is being discussed on enwiki as well, at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29#VE_.22save.22_vs_.22finish_edit.22_button

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[Bug 42138] VisualEditor: Toolbar Save page button is confusing as it merely opens the dialog to save the page

2013-06-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42138

Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com changed:

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   Priority|Normal  |Low
 Blocks|48426   |
   Target Milestone|VE-deploy-2013-06-27|---

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[Bug 42138] VisualEditor: Toolbar Save page button is confusing as it merely opens the dialog to save the page

2013-06-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42138

Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|VisualEditor: Button label  |VisualEditor: Toolbar Save
   |when dialog is not yet  |page button is confusing
   |launched should read|as it merely opens the
   |text… to show another   |dialog to save the page
   |step is needed  |

--- Comment #3 from Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com ---
I agree the toolbar button needs improvement, but imho changing the label from
Save page to Save page... is not an improvement.

It doesn't clarify or improve the user experience, it only makes it more
mysterious.

I'd prefer we look for another solution, but I think the current situation is
better than having ... tacked on to the label.

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