[Bug 45964] New WMF-deployed extensions should honor the "Exclude me from feature experiments" user preference
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45964 Nemo changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugzilla.wikimedia. ||org/show_bug.cgi?id=46306 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 45964] New WMF-deployed extensions should honor the "Exclude me from feature experiments" user preference
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45964 Ori Livneh changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |WONTFIX Assignee|wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia. |o...@wikimedia.org |org | --- Comment #7 from Ori Livneh --- OK, I haven't heard back, so I'm closing this. WONTFIX has the unfortunate tendency to come across as inflammatory or dismissive, so let me reiterate that I see this report as legitimate and useful. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 45964] New WMF-deployed extensions should honor the "Exclude me from feature experiments" user preference
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45964 MZMcBride changed: What|Removed |Added CC||b...@mzmcbride.com -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 45964] New WMF-deployed extensions should honor the "Exclude me from feature experiments" user preference
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45964 --- Comment #6 from Ori Livneh --- (In reply to comment #0) > The current trend seems to be making MediaWiki software/Wikimedia Foundation > websites more newbie-friendly, which is what I'm all for, but it should not > interfere with power users' options. > > Good recent examples of this are the PostEdit and Universal Language Selector > extensions, both of which are deployed on MediaWiki.org at least (where I'm > an admin) and both of which cannot be turned off without CSS/JS hackery. This > in unacceptable in my opinion. Power users should not find it especially difficult to add a line to their Common.css user stylesheet, but I accept that they should not have to poke around code to figure out which rule to add. I made sure the requisite CSS code is featured prominently on the extension's page on mediawiki.org: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:PostEdit#Disabling I understand why you might think this is an inferior solution. The addition of an explicit preference doubles as a kind of implicit acknowledgement that the feature in question could be obtrusive or annoying to established users, and thus it expresses civility and respect, whereas a workaround does not. But in this particular case, the change required is really very small, and probably does not take up much more time than hunting around for a preference. So I hope you will find it an adequate solution, if an imperfect one. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 45964] New WMF-deployed extensions should honor the "Exclude me from feature experiments" user preference
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45964 --- Comment #5 from Isarra --- Andre: Beyond what are apparently some aspects of Echo, nothing comes to mind, so perhaps it's better now than it has been. And Steven, I see what you're saying, but please consider being more careful about your wording in the future, as wording things so personally like that can come across as somewhat condescending. Jack wanted to tell you some interesting things as a result and I wouldn't have stopped him, but he is fortunately better at restraining himself than I am at times. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 45964] New WMF-deployed extensions should honor the "Exclude me from feature experiments" user preference
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45964 Andre Klapper changed: What|Removed |Added Priority|Unprioritized |Normal CC||mflasc...@wikimedia.org, ||o...@wikimedia.org, ||sp...@wikimedia.org, ||wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia. ||org Component|General/Unknown |E3 Experiments Whiteboard||aklapper-moreinfo -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 45964] New WMF-deployed extensions should honor the "Exclude me from feature experiments" user preference
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45964 --- Comment #4 from Andre Klapper --- (In reply to comment #0) > Good recent examples are PostEdit and Universal Language Selector (In reply to comment #2) > ULS is not an experiment, FWIW. (In reply to comment #3) > PostEdit is not a feature experiment any longer either. Jack / Isarra: Any other examples of extensions than PostEdit and ULS? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 45964] New WMF-deployed extensions should honor the "Exclude me from feature experiments" user preference
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45964 Nemo changed: What|Removed |Added CC||federicol...@tiscali.it -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 45964] New WMF-deployed extensions should honor the "Exclude me from feature experiments" user preference
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45964 --- Comment #3 from Steven Walling --- PostEdit is not a feature experiment any longer either. It's been deployed to quite a few projects in a permanent way. When my team runs real feature experiments that hit experienced users, like the A/B test of Extension:LastModified we did some time ago, we do respect the opt-outs of the "Exclude me from feature experiments" preference. However, I'm not going to use that preference to suppress PostEdit or any other permanent product that I'm responsible for. If it is specifically PostEdit that annoys you, and you think you can make a case where the majority of power users want to have PostEdit off, then we can talk about whether we should do that. But that's a separate bug than requesting dumping a bunch of disconnected "newbie" features under the label experimental. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 45964] New WMF-deployed extensions should honor the "Exclude me from feature experiments" user preference
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45964 Niklas Laxström changed: What|Removed |Added CC||niklas.laxst...@gmail.com --- Comment #2 from Niklas Laxström --- ULS is not an experiment, FWIW. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 45964] New WMF-deployed extensions should honor the "Exclude me from feature experiments" user preference
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45964 Isarra changed: What|Removed |Added CC||mas...@wikimedia.org, ||mpinc...@wikimedia.org, ||swall...@wikimedia.org, ||zhoris...@gmail.com --- Comment #1 from Isarra --- This bug also especially applies to enwp and anywhere else experiments are common, as such experiments are precisely what a user would expect such a preference to affect, along with the sort of thing that Jack brings up. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
