[Bug 49617] VisualEditor: Visually discourage use of "legal" but unwanted structures in sub-editors (e.g. lists in references)
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49617 James Forrester changed: What|Removed |Added Assignee|tpars...@wikimedia.org |jforrester+veteambztickets@ ||wikimedia.org -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 49617] VisualEditor: Visually discourage use of "legal" but unwanted structures in sub-editors (e.g. lists in references)
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49617 Chris McKenna changed: What|Removed |Added CC||cmcke...@sucs.org See Also||https://bugzilla.wikimedia. ||org/show_bug.cgi?id=52646 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 49617] VisualEditor: Visually discourage use of "legal" but unwanted structures in sub-editors (e.g. lists in references)
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49617 --- Comment #4 from James Forrester --- (In reply to comment #3) > (In reply to comment #2) > > Maybe we can discourage users from doing these things in some way, but we > > can't > > just not support this, as users have to be able to edit these back into a > > more > > rational use. > > On enwiki there is never any good reason to have headings or images in > references. In the 0.01% of cases where it is actually wanted, it can > just be done using the wikitext source editor, I think. The objective of VE is for even power users to never need to enter the wikitext editor. Fixing broken usage would be an example of a use case that we'd want to support. > However, I can understand that other wikis might want this functionality in > VE for some reason, so I suppose enwiki could hide the relevant functionality > via CSS or something like that if you think it would be better. I was thinking of having such tools hidden under an "advanced tools" collapsed block in the toolbar, but we should properly look at this rather than just commit to the way to do it in a Bugzilla thread. :-) Ideally we'd rather not have individual wikis trying to come up with local-only "solutions" to this. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 49617] VisualEditor: Visually discourage use of "legal" but unwanted structures in sub-editors (e.g. lists in references)
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49617 --- Comment #3 from This, that and the other --- (In reply to comment #2) > Maybe we can discourage users from doing these things in some way, but we > can't > just not support this, as users have to be able to edit these back into a > more > rational use. On enwiki there is never any good reason to have headings or images in references. In the 0.01% of cases where it is actually wanted, it can just be done using the wikitext source editor, I think. However, I can understand that other wikis might want this functionality in VE for some reason, so I suppose enwiki could hide the relevant functionality via CSS or something like that if you think it would be better. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 49617] VisualEditor: Visually discourage use of "legal" but unwanted structures in sub-editors (e.g. lists in references)
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49617 James Forrester changed: What|Removed |Added Priority|Unprioritized |Normal Status|NEW |ASSIGNED Assignee|rm...@wikimedia.org |tpars...@wikimedia.org Summary|VisualEditor: Don't allow |VisualEditor: Visually |insertion of|discourage use of "legal" |headings/images within |but unwanted structures in |citations (lite rich text |sub-editors (e.g. lists in |editor) |references) Severity|normal |enhancement --- Comment #2 from James Forrester --- (In reply to comment #1) > (In reply to comment #0) > > lists, headings and images > > Sorry, the list functionality has been correctly removed from this view. It > is only headings and images that need to be hidden. Regrettably, wikitext does actually pretty much everything inside references except other references (though some, ahem, "enterprising" users have found a way around that intentional limit). Examples: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor:TestReferenceContents Maybe we can discourage users from doing these things in some way, but we can't just not support this, as users have to be able to edit these back into a more rational use. (The reason that these were removed are that you're not allowed lists in image captions; we're clearly going to have to split what things the sub-editors can allow by type. Created that as bug 49657.) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
