[Bug 549] Incorrect parsing of table headings and cells on the same line

2014-02-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=549

Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org changed:

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--- Comment #15 from Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org ---
Adding the bug wrangler since he has interest in bug sprints.

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[Bug 549] Incorrect parsing of table headings and cells on the same line

2014-02-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=549

--- Comment #14 from This, that and the other at.li...@live.com.au ---
You're right that a more consistent approach is needed. I would welcome a bug
sprint in the Parser category.

There are 440 open parser bugs, and while many of them are totally legitimate
bugs needing to be fixed, there are a good few handfuls of bug reports that
lack a clear course of action, like this one. A bug sprint would get the same
pair of eyes on each of the issues, to judge them equally and knowledgeably.

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[Bug 549] Incorrect parsing of table headings and cells on the same line

2014-02-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=549

This, that and the other at.li...@live.com.au changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
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 Resolution|--- |WONTFIX

--- Comment #9 from This, that and the other at.li...@live.com.au ---
Someone's got to close this bug...

I think after 10 years it's safe to say this is now considered a feature.
Changing this now would break a lot of existing wiki syntax out there, on WMF
and on external installations.

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[Bug 549] Incorrect parsing of table headings and cells on the same line

2014-02-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=549

--- Comment #10 from Mark Clements (HappyDog) wikime...@kennel17.co.uk ---
(In reply to comment #9)
 Someone's got to close this bug...
 
 I think after 10 years it's safe to say this is now considered a feature.
 Changing this now would break a lot of existing wiki syntax out there, on WMF
 and on external installations.

Is there any evidence for that?  I would expect that, as a minimum, a grep of
the English WP should be made to see to what extent the incorrect construction
is actually being used, rather than basing this on a, possibly incorrect,
assumption.

Also, has this been closed by group consensus, or is it on your own initiative?
 I would say that this is one place where 'be bold' should not apply.

I vote to reopen, until we have some actual data on which to base the decision.

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[Bug 549] Incorrect parsing of table headings and cells on the same line

2014-02-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=549

--- Comment #11 from This, that and the other at.li...@live.com.au ---
No, just my initiative. I didn't really expect anyone to care about this bug
any more. If you would like to reopen, go ahead.

Realistically though, the chance of this getting fixed is negligible. Whether
you grep enwiki or not, any change to core wikitext (particularly something as
basic and widespread as table headers) is going to break stuff for some people
somewhere on some wiki. People are going to use the markup that generates the
look they want, so we must assume all uses of this ! || || syntax are intended
to produce the erroneous look.

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[Bug 549] Incorrect parsing of table headings and cells on the same line

2014-02-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=549

--- Comment #12 from Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org ---
I would agree with WONTFIXING this.  I have some experience with changing
behavior to fix an old bug.  The result wasn't pretty.

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[Bug 549] Incorrect parsing of table headings and cells on the same line

2014-02-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=549

Mark Clements (HappyDog) wikime...@kennel17.co.uk changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED
 Resolution|WONTFIX |---

--- Comment #13 from Mark Clements (HappyDog) wikime...@kennel17.co.uk ---
I haven't been following the discussions relating to Parsoid for quite a while,
but I know that there was general acknowledgement early-on that there are a
fairly large number of edge-case situations like this where the current parser
does not behave as you might expect, and that in an ideal world these would all
be fixed by the new parser.  It was also acknowledged that this would,
potentially, break a lot of stuff, and so fixing them might not actually be
sensible.

I'm sure that a general approach has been adopted by now, so from my point of
view this should follow whatever approach has been adopted for other similar
issues.

* If they are all WONTFIXed without any further research, due to potential
breakage, then this should also be a WONTFIX.
* If they are all being kept open, with a plan to resolving them in the new
parser, then this should be re-opened.
* If there is some kind of flag (global or per-feature) to enable old broken
behaviour, then this should be re-opened and fixed, with an appropriate flag
used to restore the existing broken behaviour.
* If - as I suspect - they were handled on a case-by-case basis, based on some
metric (e.g. prevalence in some corpus) then that same metric should be applied
here.

I guess my point is that this shouldn't be handled in isolation by one person
(or a couple of people) expressing an opinion.  It should be handled formally
via the parser team in a manner consistent with other similar issues.

On that principal, I am re-opening.  Am happy for it to be re-closed by an
appropriately informed person, so long as it is handled consistently with other
issues and appropriate justification is given.

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[Bug 549] Incorrect parsing of table headings and cells on the same line

2011-05-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=549

Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Attachment #105 is|0   |1
   obsolete||

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[Bug 549] Incorrect parsing of table headings and cells on the same line

2011-05-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=549

Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org changed:

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   Keywords|patch   |

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[Bug 549] Incorrect parsing of table headings and cells on the same line

2011-04-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=549

Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org changed:

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   Keywords|triage  |
   Priority|Normal  |Lowest
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--- Comment #7 from Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org 2011-04-12 
15:17:38 UTC ---
This has been here forever and people seem to know the work-arounds.  We may
try to make the behavior more consistent in the new parser, but, unless someone
steps forward with an urgent use-case, this is really low priority.

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[Bug 549] Incorrect parsing of table headings and cells on the same line

2011-04-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=549

Mark Clements (HappyDog) w...@kennel17.co.uk changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords||triage
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