[Bug 54906] VisualEditor: Append references section and list to bottom of pages when first reference is added

2014-05-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54906

James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Assignee|tpars...@wikimedia.org  |kren...@wikimedia.org

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[Bug 54906] VisualEditor: Append references section and list to bottom of pages when first reference is added

2014-05-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54906

--- Comment #5 from Alex Monk kren...@wikimedia.org ---
If wikis use their own template instead of using references / directly, this
doesn't sound like a good idea...

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[Bug 54906] VisualEditor: Append references section and list to bottom of pages when first reference is added

2014-05-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #6 from Jared Zimmerman (WMF) jared.zimmer...@wikimedia.org ---
Will references / break or display an error or will it just look different in
the wikitext than what they are used to?

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[Bug 54906] VisualEditor: Append references section and list to bottom of pages when first reference is added

2014-05-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #7 from Alex Monk kren...@wikimedia.org ---
It 'just' looks different in most cases, as far as I'm aware.

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[Bug 54906] VisualEditor: Append references section and list to bottom of pages when first reference is added

2014-05-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #8 from James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org ---
(In reply to Alex Monk from comment #5)
 If wikis use their own template instead of using references / directly,
 this doesn't sound like a good idea...

This is why bug 51260 exists.

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[Bug 54906] VisualEditor: Append references section and list to bottom of pages when first reference is added

2014-05-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Alex Monk kren...@wikimedia.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Depends on||51260

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[Bug 54906] VisualEditor: Append references section and list to bottom of pages when first reference is added

2014-05-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #9 from Jared Zimmerman (WMF) jared.zimmer...@wikimedia.org ---
So if it's a difference in the look or style of the wikitext only. And the
resolution is fewer or no errors for end users, then this seems like an easy
choice to make.

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[Bug 54906] VisualEditor: Append references section and list to bottom of pages when first reference is added

2014-05-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54906

James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   See Also||https://bugzilla.wikimedia.
   ||org/show_bug.cgi?id=51260
 Depends on|51260   |

--- Comment #10 from James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org ---
I disagree that this is blocked by bug 51260; this bug will avoid breakage for
users (who insert references and don't know to insert a reference list),
whereas bug 51260 is a nice-to-have set of options around styling said
reference list.

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[Bug 54906] VisualEditor: Append references section and list to bottom of pages when first reference is added

2014-04-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||rm...@wikimedia.org
  Component|MediaWiki integration   |Editing Tools
   Assignee|jforrester+veteambztickets@ |tpars...@wikimedia.org
   |wikimedia.org   |

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[Bug 54906] VisualEditor: Append references section and list to bottom of pages when first reference is added

2014-02-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Assignee|krinklem...@gmail.com   |jforrester+veteambztickets@
   ||wikimedia.org

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[Bug 54906] VisualEditor: Append references section and list to bottom of pages when first reference is added

2014-02-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54906

James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|VisualEditor: Append|VisualEditor: Append
   |references section and  |references section and list
   |template to bottom of pages |to bottom of pages when
   |when first reference|first reference is added
   |template is added   |

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[Bug 54906] VisualEditor: Append references section and list to bottom of pages when first reference is added

2014-02-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||ryasm...@wikimedia.org

--- Comment #2 from James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org ---
*** Bug 58049 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Bug 54906] VisualEditor: Append references section and list to bottom of pages when first reference is added

2014-02-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #3 from Jared Zimmerman (WMF) jared.zimmer...@wikimedia.org ---
I worry that this will cause issues if the references are added manually,
rather than through the {{Reflist}} template that we'll be creating an
inconsistency and moving in a direction that we don't want to go it (I don't
know if we want to go in this direction at all)

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[Bug 54906] VisualEditor: Append references section and list to bottom of pages when first reference is added

2014-02-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54906

--- Comment #4 from James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org ---
(In reply to Jared Zimmerman (WMF) from comment #3)
 I worry that this will cause issues if the references are added manually,
 rather than through the {{Reflist}} template that we'll be creating an
 inconsistency and moving in a direction that we don't want to go it (I don't
 know if we want to go in this direction at all)

References should *never* be added through the {{reflist}} template (which
itself should *never* be used) in VisualEditor… Hence the huge amount of work
we're doing to make the new citation inserting system and improve the existing
citations system to obviate the need for the use of templates as hacks around
deficiencies in the system.

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