[Bug 58599] Add BetaFeatures feature component to MediaWiki extensions Bugzilla product

2013-12-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58599

--- Comment #6 from Jon jrob...@wikimedia.org ---
Please reconsider or at least rethink the problem as there is a real problem
here in my opinion.

From my perspective:
1) People should not be expected to know from which extension beta features
come from so in the current scenario various bugs will be filed incorrectly.
2) Beta features don't always plan to graduate to stable so are lower priority
then the extensions that house them. For example - nearby pages is part of
MobileFrontend.
The purpose of the experiment was to explore whether such a feature was useful
in desktop. If it is, it will need MediaWiki UI and a massive rewrite before
being pushed to desktop.

Now I am seeing a flood of bugs filed under mobile from problems experienced in
the Beta Features environment field. These tend to not be helpful as I'm aware
the code has issues when run in desktop.

I would like some way of keeping these bugs separate from what I see as real
bugs. I am very close to wanting to kill this beta feature because of this
noise as I feel the bugs are intruding on the mobile teams core work which
would be a huge shame. Please dont make me do this...

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[Bug 58599] Add BetaFeatures feature component to MediaWiki extensions Bugzilla product

2013-12-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58599

--- Comment #7 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org ---
The primary organization structure of Bugzilla is products and components which
are mostly based on code repositories or code areas.

(In reply to comment #6)
 1) People should not be expected to know from which extension beta features
 come from so in the current scenario various bugs will be filed incorrectly.

I'm happy to edit the BetaFeatures component description in Bugzilla to link to
a wikipage that explains which beta feature is called how.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures
has links to Information and Discussion so you're free to add a link to
corresponding Bugzilla components on the Information page. Or using the
Bugzilla parameter of the {{Extension}} template.

 Now I am seeing a flood of bugs filed under mobile from problems experienced
 in the Beta Features environment field.

Example bugs welcome so I can investigate plus if there are patterns I should
improve documentation.

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[Bug 58599] Add BetaFeatures feature component to MediaWiki extensions Bugzilla product

2013-12-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58599

--- Comment #8 from Jon jrob...@wikimedia.org ---
If features could provide preferred bug links that would be more useful..
Personally I just want to use talk pages for both of my features. I ignore the
VectorBeta component. With respect to typography it's just not stable enough to
warrant bugzilla bugs.

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[Bug 58599] Add BetaFeatures feature component to MediaWiki extensions Bugzilla product

2013-12-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58599

Bartosz Dziewoński matma@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

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--- Comment #1 from Bartosz Dziewoński matma@gmail.com ---
All BetaFeatures are currently parts of some extension, so the bugs should
probably be filed in the extensions, no?

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[Bug 58599] Add BetaFeatures feature component to MediaWiki extensions Bugzilla product

2013-12-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58599

Kunal Mehta (Legoktm) legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #2 from Kunal Mehta (Legoktm) legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com ---
(In reply to comment #0)
 Right now, there's nowhere to raise a bug about e.g. Typography refresh that
 won't muddy up the bugs about BetaFeatures itself, as opposed to things that
 use it.

Those should be filed against VectorBeta. Though, supposedly those styles are
actually in core, so the bugs should be filed in core?

(In reply to comment #1)
 All BetaFeatures are currently parts of some extension, so the bugs should
 probably be filed in the extensions, no?

I agree.

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[Bug 58599] Add BetaFeatures feature component to MediaWiki extensions Bugzilla product

2013-12-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58599

Mark Holmquist mtrac...@member.fsf.org changed:

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--- Comment #2 from Kunal Mehta (Legoktm) legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com ---
(In reply to comment #0)
 Right now, there's nowhere to raise a bug about e.g. Typography refresh that
 won't muddy up the bugs about BetaFeatures itself, as opposed to things that
 use it.

Those should be filed against VectorBeta. Though, supposedly those styles are
actually in core, so the bugs should be filed in core?

(In reply to comment #1)
 All BetaFeatures are currently parts of some extension, so the bugs should
 probably be filed in the extensions, no?

I agree.

--- Comment #3 from Mark Holmquist mtrac...@member.fsf.org ---
Yeah, agreed with MatmaRex, this seems mighty silly. If anything, it wouldn't
go under the Extensions product, because you're talking about something that
*isn't* an extension, it's either only part of one or some sort of weird core
betafeature.

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[Bug 58599] Add BetaFeatures feature component to MediaWiki extensions Bugzilla product

2013-12-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 CC||jforres...@wikimedia.org
 Resolution|--- |WONTFIX

--- Comment #4 from James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org ---
So… we should just throw them in General and hope they get worked on? Lovely.
:-(

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[Bug 58599] Add BetaFeatures feature component to MediaWiki extensions Bugzilla product

2013-12-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #5 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org ---
(In reply to comment #1)
 All BetaFeatures are currently parts of some extension, so the bugs should
 probably be filed in the extensions, no?

Yes. If extensions are missing I should create them (bug 58616, bug 58617,
etc).

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