https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59146
Web browser: --- Bug ID: 59146 Summary: Enabling access and edit access to Wikipedia via TOR Product: MediaWiki Version: unspecified Hardware: All OS: All Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: Unprioritized Component: User blocking Assignee: wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org Reporter: m...@tgries.de Classification: Unclassified Mobile Platform: --- During the 30C3 Congress [1] in Hamburg the core member of the TOR project complained in one of his numerous talks that the (edit) access to Wikipedia via TOR is not possible. He requested that a way should be found to enable the TOR access including edit access to Wikipedia. The following answers were given in the mailing list: - John: Editing via tor is possible on WMF wikis if the account / user is trusted - Tyler: There is a special permission that allows specific accounts to not be affected by IP blocks. It is granted by application on a case-by-case basis. You can find more information here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IP_block_exemption. I am not sure whether similar processes exist on other wikis. As for the original topic, this has been thoroughly discussed before, and every time I forget what the result of the discussion is. I know for sure that since MediaWiki is fundamentally centered around knowing users' IP addresses in order to stop sockpuppets, simply allowing Tor users to edit will not happen. We need a solution that allows us to know a Tor user's IP address without actually known their IP address. If that sounds like a difficult problem, it's because it is. One suggestion was to use a type of token authentication, where we use RSA blinding in order to give anonymous exemption tokens. Another suggestion was to simply abandon IP blocks, since users can easily enough change their IP addresses anyway. It seems he already knows that - he mentioned it in the 30C3 talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SscFfzD_his#t=36m55s (see also Roger Dingledine earlier in the same talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SscFfzD_his#t=34m18s ) This problem has been discussed many times before, also on this list: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/wikitech/323006 There have been quite a few well-meaning but naive proposals to solve it; I understand Jacob's remarks as a welcome call to the TOR community to work more intensively with Wikipedians to understand the actual issues that motivated Wikipedia's TOR block. - Kat: FWIW, I set IP block exempt on his account a few years ago, but to my frustration it looks like someone removed it because of inactivity. (Editorializing a bit, I don't see much value in the removal; while it is true that an inactive user's account could be broken into, the permission extends to a single account, which can be blocked like any other if it starts to act unproductively.) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. _______________________________________________ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l