[Bug 62559] Redesign Special:Preferences (kill the tabs)

2014-03-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62559

--- Comment #5 from Isarra zhoris...@gmail.com ---
Whether or not there are tabs vs some other navigation element is determined by
the skin, no?

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[Bug 62559] Redesign Special:Preferences (kill the tabs)

2014-03-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62559

--- Comment #6 from Quiddity pandiculat...@gmail.com ---
(In reply to Isarra from comment #5)
 Whether or not there are tabs vs some other navigation element is determined
 by the skin, no?

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Preferencesuseskin=vector
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Preferencesuseskin=monobook
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Preferencesuseskin=modern
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Preferencesuseskin=cologneblue
and
https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Preferencesuseskin=minerva
(note: minerva might not work for most people yet. I managed to enable the
BetaFeature ([[mw:Beta Features/Minerva]]) when it was brieflyaccidentally
enabled a few weeks ago... ;)

Cologneblue uses a very different layout, but still essentially tabs.

Users without JS get all the sub-sections at once on a single long page (all
skins).

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[Bug 62559] Redesign Special:Preferences (kill the tabs)

2014-03-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62559

Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Priority|Unprioritized   |Low
   Severity|normal  |enhancement

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[Bug 62559] Redesign Special:Preferences (kill the tabs)

2014-03-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62559

--- Comment #1 from Jared Zimmerman (WMF) jared.zimmer...@wikimedia.org ---
@MZ, don't forget to ping Dan Garry to get access to the logs of pref changes
and current states, a lot of prefs might be able to be removed based on usage
data. also ping Moiz, he might not have time to help with design but may be
able to offer some helpful critique.

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[Bug 62559] Redesign Special:Preferences (kill the tabs)

2014-03-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #2 from Daniel Friesen mediawiki-b...@nadir-seen-fire.com ---
(In reply to MZMcBride from comment #0)
 large collapsible buttons stacked on top of each other

details? ;)

Avoiding the sidebar would be nice. Both tabs and sidebars don't play that well
on small screens. Anything that avoids the need to be redone in MF or lessens
the barriers to allowing our standard skins to work responsively at small
screens with media queries is nice.

Also, a sidebar next to a sidebar (which any core or derived skin will have)
will probably look weird.

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[Bug 62559] Redesign Special:Preferences (kill the tabs)

2014-03-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62559

MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

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--- Comment #3 from MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com ---
(In reply to Jared Zimmerman (WMF) from comment #1)
 @MZ, don't forget to ping Dan Garry to get access to the logs of pref
 changes and current states, a lot of prefs might be able to be removed based
 on usage data. also ping Moiz, he might not have time to help with design
 but may be able to offer some helpful critique.

Added Dan to the CC list of this bug (Moiz was already added). :-)  For now, I
think I want to consider removing user preferences (or even rearranging user
preferences) orthogonal to changing the layout. I'm hoping we can do something
like re-lay out -- possibly re-arrange -- continue to slowly remove user
preferences as necessary.

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[Bug 62559] Redesign Special:Preferences (kill the tabs)

2014-03-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62559

--- Comment #4 from Jared Zimmerman (WMF) jared.zimmer...@wikimedia.org ---
Yes, but unless you have a better idea of what settings are present you'll be
organizing what we already have. rather I think it would be best to take all of
the setting that we should have going forward and start thinking about how
those that remain fit into logical groupings (I argue that the current
groupings might not be idea) so unless you start with the right set you might
arrive at a grouping that is too similar to what we have now.

I say this from experience, having done a similar exercise with AutoCAD years
ago, which had even more preference cruft piled on over the years.

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