[Bug 70255] Echo-notification-alert - unclear definition of alert

2014-11-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70255

--- Comment #4 from Matthew Flaschen mflasc...@wikimedia.org ---
(In reply to Lokal_Profil from comment #3)
 Thanks. I've now done that and it clarified a bit. From this I instead
 conclude that:
 * message = anything triggered by Flow (or at least new posts on watched
 topics)
 * alerts = anything triggered by non-Flow (including messages left on the
 users talk page)
 * notifications = any of the above.

Yes, I believe that's accurate.

 If that is the case then alerts essentially become system messages (which
 is clearly distinguishable from notifications).

I would say that e.g. a mention is both an alert and a notification.  However,
I understand a literal translation of 'alert' may not work in all languages.

 Even so it would be good to have a clear definition of the three terms and
 how they differ from the Echo-team.

Can I clarify the above further?  Our team (Core Features) works on both Flow
and Echo.

 Exactly the same thing was an issue previously with the new Flow concepts
 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67967

Suppression is not a new Flow concept.  It has existed for regular wikitext
pages (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Suppression) for quite some
time.

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[Bug 70255] Echo-notification-alert - unclear definition of alert

2014-11-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #1 from Lokal_Profil lokal_pro...@hotmail.com ---
Do I understand things right if:

* message = discussion messages
* notifications = all other types of updates (thanks, mentions, links)
* alerts = the indicator that you have new notifications+messages (anything
non-flow)

Currently Hovering over the notification number says Your notifications The
flyout then says Alerts followed by a list of the notifications which ends
with all notifications. I.e. it is still extremely unclear why the Alerts
terminology is needed why it cannot simply be called notification.

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[Bug 70255] Echo-notification-alert - unclear definition of alert

2014-11-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Matthew Flaschen mflasc...@wikimedia.org changed:

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--- Comment #2 from Matthew Flaschen mflasc...@wikimedia.org ---
(In reply to Lokal_Profil from comment #1)
 Do I understand things right if:
 
 * message = discussion messages
 * notifications = all other types of updates (thanks, mentions, links)
 * alerts = the indicator that you have new notifications+messages (anything
 non-flow)

* message = Flow messages
* notifications = messages + alerts
* alerts = any Echo notification except Flow messages

 I.e. it is still extremely unclear why the
 Alerts terminology is needed why it cannot simply be called notification.

It sounds like you don't have any Flow messages yet.  Try watching a Flow page
(even just temporarily to see what I mean) like
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Flow .

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[Bug 70255] Echo-notification-alert - unclear definition of alert

2014-09-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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This, that and the other (TTO) at.li...@live.com.au changed:

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