[Bug 73422] Arrow icons in mobile watchlist are unnecessary and distracting

2014-11-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73422

--- Comment #13 from Gerrit Notification Bot gerritad...@wikimedia.org ---
Change 173535 merged by jenkins-bot:
Remove bytes{added|removed} image from MobileSpecialPageFeed

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/173535

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[Bug 73422] Arrow icons in mobile watchlist are unnecessary and distracting

2014-11-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Florian florian.schmidt.wel...@t-online.de changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||florian.schmidt.welzow@t-on
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--- Comment #11 from Florian florian.schmidt.wel...@t-online.de ---
The same on Special:Contributions:
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spezial:Beitr%C3%A4ge/Florianschmidtwelzow?mobileaction=alpha

I think, too, that we should remove the images (i will create a change for it)

 Mmm weird.. I have no idea why these are showing up in alpha but they do not 
 show up in beta or stable.

In stable, MobileUI:iconClass generates the following mw-mf-bytesadded as a
class for icons (which is only defined for mobilediff:
https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-MobileFrontend/blob/d240d28f3b128c503da7feb7b41d65d6f34f80ca/less/specials/mobilediff.less).

In alpha we use mw-ui-icon-bytesadded, where we have a rule for it in
iconsNew.less:
https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-MobileFrontend/blob/0da28a8f3c74b0cfa5263c969fc4d1db086b473d/less/iconsNew.less#L83

(it's possible to move the css rule out of mobilediff to be used in pagefeeds,
but (like i said above), i think it's better to remove the icons :)).

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[Bug 73422] Arrow icons in mobile watchlist are unnecessary and distracting

2014-11-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73422

--- Comment #12 from Gerrit Notification Bot gerritad...@wikimedia.org ---
Change 173535 had a related patch set uploaded by Florianschmidtwelzow:
Remove bytes{added|remoed} image from MobileSpecialPageFeed

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/173535

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[Bug 73422] Arrow icons in mobile watchlist are unnecessary and distracting

2014-11-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73422

Gerrit Notification Bot gerritad...@wikimedia.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |PATCH_TO_REVIEW

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[Bug 73422] Arrow icons in mobile watchlist are unnecessary and distracting

2014-11-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73422

--- Comment #1 from Bingle bingle-ad...@wikimedia.org ---
Prioritization and scheduling of this bug is tracked on Trello card
https://trello.com/c/HgwV3cVF

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[Bug 73422] Arrow icons in mobile watchlist are unnecessary and distracting

2014-11-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Jon jrob...@wikimedia.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

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--- Comment #2 from Jon jrob...@wikimedia.org ---
Quim can you elaborate on what you are seeing? I don't see up/down arrows.
Although I do see them on the diff page... e.g.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/633825868
are those what you are referring to?

A screenshot here would help. If you are indeed talking about those I know May
and I were talking about whether they added any value.

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[Bug 73422] Arrow icons in mobile watchlist are unnecessary and distracting

2014-11-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #3 from Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org ---
Created attachment 17128
  -- https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=17128action=edit
Mobile watchlist with arrow icons

Sure, here you have a screenshot of my ca.wiki mobile watchlist. I have
everything experimental enabled.

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[Bug 73422] Arrow icons in mobile watchlist are unnecessary and distracting

2014-11-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #4 from May mgallo...@wikimedia.org ---
I can agree that there is a lot of negative connotations in down arrow on top
of red colored text for bytes removed. I think at some point, we also used
minus sign. 

However, using colors to define the meanings of both figures doesn't always
work for, e.g. users who don't see colors.

This is an issue that has been on some of our to-do but just not very high in
priority. I can work with your primary designer on the relevant project to come
up with a more appropriate sign to accompany those bytes removed/added figures
depending on the priority of this bug.

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[Bug 73422] Arrow icons in mobile watchlist are unnecessary and distracting

2014-11-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #5 from Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org ---
Color blind users don't have any problem here either:

+259
-8
+25
+25

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[Bug 73422] Arrow icons in mobile watchlist are unnecessary and distracting

2014-11-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #6 from May mgallo...@wikimedia.org ---
(In reply to Quim Gil from comment #5)
 Color blind users don't have any problem here either:
 
 +259
 -8
 +25
 +25

The good/bad issue that you mentioned initially is still prominent though. But
removing colors and arrow is a great step ahead.

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[Bug 73422] Arrow icons in mobile watchlist are unnecessary and distracting

2014-11-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #7 from Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org ---
+259 or -8 is just a description, I don't see the good/bad connotation there.
Using green-red in numbers to denote characters added-removed is a (geeky)
convention, and I don't think it is disturbing per se, or misleading.

I'd say, just remove the arrows and things will be fine, as they were before
they came. The question would be: what problem are these arrows trying to
solve?

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[Bug 73422] Arrow icons in mobile watchlist are unnecessary and distracting

2014-11-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Jon jrob...@wikimedia.org changed:

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--- Comment #9 from Jon jrob...@wikimedia.org ---
(May I don't think it is a high priority but I'll let Moiz decide about that)

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[Bug 73422] Arrow icons in mobile watchlist are unnecessary and distracting

2014-11-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73422

Jon jrob...@wikimedia.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

  Component|General/Unknown |alpha

--- Comment #8 from Jon jrob...@wikimedia.org ---
Mmm weird.. I have no idea why these are showing up in alpha but they do not
show up in beta or stable.

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[Bug 73422] Arrow icons in mobile watchlist are unnecessary and distracting

2014-11-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #10 from Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org ---
(In reply to Jon from comment #8)
 Mmm weird.. I have no idea why these are showing up in alpha but they do not
 show up in beta or stable.

Looks like a good decision to me.  :)  Please don't rush pushing these arrows
to stable.

PS: thank you both for the quick replies! Ah, I was missing filing bugs for
MobileFrontend... ;)

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