Re: [Wikidata] Aren't pages too long?

2016-05-04 Thread Brill Lyle
Not really what I was asking. I understand the URI and what the permalink does/is. But thanks anyway. - Erika *Erika Herzog* Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle* Secretary, Wikimedia NYC On Wed, May 4, 20

Re: [Wikidata] Aren't pages too long?

2016-05-04 Thread Young,Jeff (OR)
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Re: [Wikidata] Aren't pages too long?

2016-05-04 Thread Brill Lyle
That would be great, very helpful. Would this be a problematic value exists check, in terms of creating a lag in responsiveness? I am also not clear on the fact that one of the Authority Control elements is populating in the top Statements section vs. the lower Identifiers section -- i.e., *ISNI*

Re: [Wikidata] Aren't pages too long?

2016-05-04 Thread Andrew Gray
On 3 May 2016 at 17:47, Brill Lyle wrote: > As someone very intimidated and overwhelmed by the Wikidata interface, I > agree the list of elements is too long. I was trying to update Authority > Control for a Wikipedia entry and it was a lot of scrolling around to make > sure I wasn't adding duplic

Re: [Wikidata] Aren't pages too long?

2016-05-03 Thread David Abián
Thank you very much for all your comments. If you let me write a personal reflection, I think we need to integrate good ideas concerning UX (reasonators and any other external tool) as a part of the software before it's too late. On Wikipedia, I fear that it's already too late, so late that I'm se

Re: [Wikidata] Aren't pages too long?

2016-05-03 Thread Brill Lyle
As someone very intimidated and overwhelmed by the Wikidata interface, I agree the list of elements is too long. I was trying to update Authority Control for a Wikipedia entry and it was a lot of scrolling around to make sure I wasn't adding duplicates, etc. A Table of Contents would be a huge help

Re: [Wikidata] Aren't pages too long?

2016-05-03 Thread zehetner
I also think Reasonator does a very good job displaying Wikidata information. I'm experimenting with a Reasonator version which allows to add some basic analysis tools for genes and proteins [1]. It's called Reasomics and when switched on top of page to on pages with gene and protein items (e.

Re: [Wikidata] Aren't pages too long?

2016-05-03 Thread Benjamin Good
I think no one would disagree that the current viewing experience on the main wikidata.org interface is not ideal. Keep in mind though that this is fundamentally an impossible UI task. There are many many different ways that the data about an item in wikidata might be best used/viewed depending o

Re: [Wikidata] Aren't pages too long?

2016-05-03 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, For several years the Reasonator has done a stellar job. It is much better at providing information based on the Wikidata data. It just does not have a priority to provide an interface like this. The beauty of the Reasonator that it can easily provide you the same information in other languag

Re: [Wikidata] Aren't pages too long?

2016-05-03 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
My main issues are * there isn't a TOC, which is sorely needed to be able to jump to the various sections (e.g. identifiers, sitelinks); * there is only one "add statement" button and it's in an unpredictable position. The two issues are very easy to fix IMHO: just add a TOC and a second button

Re: [Wikidata] Aren't pages too long?

2016-05-03 Thread Magnus Manske
For alternative interfaces that include editing capabilities, see also my demo here: https://tools.wmflabs.org/reasonator/widee/#q=Q42 (this one is optimized for load speed and readability, but it's been around for a while, so no guarantees...) On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 1:27 PM Markus Kroetzsch < ma

Re: [Wikidata] Aren't pages too long?

2016-05-03 Thread Markus Kroetzsch
Hi David, Reasonator has done a lot of pioneering work in this area. We are copying some of it in SQID (and adding own modifications). In general, these projects could be nice playgrounds for experimentation here. If you have suggestions on how to improve these UIs, they are very welcome. I

Re: [Wikidata] Aren't pages too long?

2016-05-03 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 1:08 PM David Abián wrote: > Hi, > > I think that most elements on Wikidata are nowadays too long to be > easily read by humans. There are many properties (which is great), the > information is too scattered, and this problem (if you consider it a > problem) will continue g

[Wikidata] Aren't pages too long?

2016-05-03 Thread David Abián
Hi, I think that most elements on Wikidata are nowadays too long to be easily read by humans. There are many properties (which is great), the information is too scattered, and this problem (if you consider it a problem) will continue growing up. Some suggestions come to mind... * Visually group