Re: [Wikidata] Improve Wikidata links to Dutch municipalities

2017-05-20 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 6:47 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 19 May 2017 at 11:49, Egon Willighagen > wrote: > > > I am not sure I see how you want to achieve that beyond Wikidata at > > this moment? > > My comment referred only to Wikidata. Then I think that we were not talking about the same th

Re: [Wikidata] Improve Wikidata links to Dutch municipalities

2017-05-20 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 19 May 2017 at 11:49, Egon Willighagen wrote: > I am not sure I see how you want to achieve that beyond Wikidata at > this moment? My comment referred only to Wikidata. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikidata maili

Re: [Wikidata] Improve Wikidata links to Dutch municipalities

2017-05-19 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 8:45 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: > I'm ambivalent as to which is the ideal solution; but using both, > inconsistently, and on an arbitrary basis, is certainly not it. I agree, but we're in a mixed world right now... semantic web is being picked up, and I think we must take adv

Re: [Wikidata] Improve Wikidata links to Dutch municipalities

2017-05-18 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 18 May 2017 at 10:13, Andra Waagmeester wrote: > Using P1921 will not always work. Especially in the case where resources use > opaque identifiers either as internal identifiers and/or IRI's, making the > transformation between the two impossible. > > Also having to rely on P1921 to run for ex

Re: [Wikidata] Improve Wikidata links to Dutch municipalities

2017-05-18 Thread Andra Waagmeester
Using P1921 will not always work. Especially in the case where resources use opaque identifiers either as internal identifiers and/or IRI's, making the transformation between the two impossible. Also having to rely on P1921 to run for example federated queries leads to complex query patterns. You

Re: [Wikidata] Improve Wikidata links to Dutch municipalities

2017-05-17 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 17 May 2017 at 20:20, Andra Waagmeester wrote: > > On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 5:52 PM, Andy Mabbett > wrote: >> >> On 17 May 2017 at 16:28, Andra Waagmeester wrote: >> >> > Just to add to Egon's comment IRI's can also be added to Wikidata using >> > the >> > Property P2888 - Exact Match. >> >> I

Re: [Wikidata] Improve Wikidata links to Dutch municipalities

2017-05-17 Thread Andra Waagmeester
On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 5:52 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 17 May 2017 at 16:28, Andra Waagmeester wrote: > > > Just to add to Egon's comment IRI's can also be added to Wikidata using > the > > Property P2888 - Exact Match. > > I wouldn't advise doing this when we already have the ID in a specifi

Re: [Wikidata] Improve Wikidata links to Dutch municipalities

2017-05-17 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 17 May 2017 at 17:32, Wouter Beek wrote: > For instance the Dutch municipality of Apeldoorn > (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3018561) should refer to the Kadaster > resource IRI and not to a document IRI (as is currently the case). > There is also a "formatter URL" property (P1630). Maybe t

Re: [Wikidata] Improve Wikidata links to Dutch municipalities

2017-05-17 Thread Wouter Beek
Hi Andy, Thank you for the useful feedback. I'm trying to understand what's the best way for us to link our LOD activities to Wikidata's. Your comments (and also Egon's BTW) are thus much appreciated. On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 5:55 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: > Other's have answered this, but I woul

Re: [Wikidata] Improve Wikidata links to Dutch municipalities

2017-05-17 Thread Wouter Beek
On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 6:14 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: > Purge the page, per: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Purge#Purge_request_to_server > > (that's advice for Wikipedia, but the principles are the same) > > Also, please give specific URLs for examples, not "one of the...". Let m

Re: [Wikidata] Improve Wikidata links to Dutch municipalities

2017-05-17 Thread Wouter Beek
Hi Andy, Thank you for the useful feedback. I'm trying to understand what's the best way for us to link our LOD activities to Wikidata's. Your comments (and also Egon's BTW) are thus much appreciated. On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 5:55 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: > Other's have answered this, but I woul

Re: [Wikidata] Improve Wikidata links to Dutch municipalities

2017-05-17 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 17 May 2017 at 17:06, Wouter Beek wrote: > The old template was pointing to the Linked Data browser > (i.e., HTML documents). I've changed this to the URI template of the > identifiers for Dutch municipalities. Thank you. > When I visit one of the Dutch municipalities, it still has the old

Re: [Wikidata] Improve Wikidata links to Dutch municipalities

2017-05-17 Thread Wouter Beek
Hi, Thanks to Egon I now understand that I can change the RDF URI template. The old template was pointing to the Linked Data browser (i.e., HTML documents). I've changed this to the URI template of the identifiers for Dutch municipalities. When I visit one of the Dutch municipalities, it still

Re: [Wikidata] Improve Wikidata links to Dutch municipalities

2017-05-17 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 17 May 2017 at 15:14, Egon Willighagen wrote: > It can have both... (if I understand correctly what you want)... see > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P662 > > It has "formatter URL" (P1630) for the HTML and "RDF URI template" > (P1921) for the IRI I've done this for P981 ("BAG-code

Re: [Wikidata] Improve Wikidata links to Dutch municipalities

2017-05-17 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 17 May 2017 at 15:09, Wouter Beek wrote: > Kadaster, the Dutch cadastre agency is publishing its base registries as > Linked Open Data. Yay! \o/ > This means that we have minted unique identifiers for all > buildings, roads, etc in the Netherlands. > > Wikidata currently includes links to th

Re: [Wikidata] Improve Wikidata links to Dutch municipalities

2017-05-17 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 17 May 2017 at 16:28, Andra Waagmeester wrote: > Just to add to Egon's comment IRI's can also be added to Wikidata using the > Property P2888 - Exact Match. I wouldn't advise doing this when we already have the ID in a specific property. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.o

Re: [Wikidata] Improve Wikidata links to Dutch municipalities

2017-05-17 Thread Andra Waagmeester
Just to add to Egon's comment IRI's can also be added to Wikidata using the Property P2888 - Exact Match. On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Egon Willighagen < egon.willigha...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 4:09 PM, Wouter Beek wrote: > > Wikidata currently includes links to the Kada

Re: [Wikidata] Improve Wikidata links to Dutch municipalities

2017-05-17 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 4:09 PM, Wouter Beek wrote: > Wikidata currently includes links to the Kadaster, but these do not point to > the proper IRIs. For example, Dutch municipalities in Wikidata currently > link to an HTML viewer of Kadaster [1], but they should point to our > dereferenceable IR

[Wikidata] Improve Wikidata links to Dutch municipalities

2017-05-17 Thread Wouter Beek
Hi Wikidata community, Kadaster, the Dutch cadastre agency is publishing its base registries as Linked Open Data. This means that we have minted unique identifiers for all buildings, roads, etc in the Netherlands. Wikidata currently includes links to the Kadaster, but these do not point to the p

[Wikidata] Improve Wikidata links to Dutch municipalities

2017-05-17 Thread Wouter Beek
Hi Wikidata community, Kadaster, the Dutch cadastre agency is publishing its base registries as Linked Open Data. This means that we have minted unique identifiers for all buildings, roads, etc in the Netherlands. Wikidata currently includes links to the Kadaster, but these do not point to the p