Re: [Wikidata] An attribute for "famous person"

2016-08-03 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! > Jane, now we are really going into the field of elastic search's > relevancy calculation. When searching, things like popularity > (pageviews), incoming links, number of different language wiki articles, > article size, article quality (good/selected), and many other aspects > could be used

Re: [Wikidata] An attribute for "famous person"

2016-08-03 Thread Dimitris Kontokostas
Apologies for the brief and combined reply but I'm on mobile. Will try and answer the DBpedia-related comments. DBpedia provides out degree metrics ( number of outgoing links from an article) and article size (in wikitext chars) directly through related extractors that can be used for ranking.

Re: [Wikidata] An attribute for "famous person"

2016-08-03 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
Jane, now we are really going into the field of elastic search's relevancy calculation. When searching, things like popularity (pageviews), incoming links, number of different language wiki articles, article size, article quality (good/selected), and many other aspects could be used to better the

Re: [Wikidata] An attribute for "famous person"

2016-08-03 Thread Jane Darnell
Too bad, because it would be great for all sorts of project workflows! On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 10:04 AM, Stas Malyshev wrote: > Hi! > > On 8/2/16 11:36 PM, Jane Darnell wrote: > > Would page props also give me the creation date of the Wikipedia page in > > that specific

Re: [Wikidata] An attribute for "famous person"

2016-08-03 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! On 8/2/16 11:36 PM, Jane Darnell wrote: > Would page props also give me the creation date of the Wikipedia page in > that specific sitelink? Because this is something I needed when Don't think so and I don't think such data should be in Wikidata or WDQS database - it's Wikipedia

Re: [Wikidata] An attribute for "famous person"

2016-08-03 Thread Jane Darnell
Would page props also give me the creation date of the Wikipedia page in that specific sitelink? Because this is something I needed when analyzing the data for the TED speakers challenge. When running an international writing challenge for Wikipedia it would be nice to rune a daily or weekly count

Re: [Wikidata] An attribute for "famous person"

2016-08-02 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! > If you think it is best to implement a more general feature that adds > even more properties, then I am sure nobody will complain, but it sounds > like more work to me. The number I was asking for is something that you I don't think it's *much* more work, and I planned to do this work

Re: [Wikidata] An attribute for "famous person"

2016-08-02 Thread Markus Kroetzsch
On 03.08.2016 02:51, Stas Malyshev wrote: Hi! Is there a way we could have more than just the number of language links? Eg number of incoming links from other wikipedia pages? If we implement T129046 we can have any page props we want to :) Of course, adding them for the whole DB would

Re: [Wikidata] An attribute for "famous person"

2016-08-02 Thread Markus Kroetzsch
On 03.08.2016 02:49, Stas Malyshev wrote: Hi! Oh, there is a little misunderstanding here. I have not suggested to create a property "number of sitelinks in this document". What I propose instead is to create a property "number of sitelinks for the document associated with this entity". The

Re: [Wikidata] An attribute for "famous person"

2016-08-02 Thread Markus Kroetzsch
On 02.08.2016 22:28, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: Is there a way we could have more than just the number of language links? Eg number of incoming links from other wikipedia pages? One could have other data added to the store, but this may be more work depending on what you want. You ask about links

Re: [Wikidata] An attribute for "famous person"

2016-08-02 Thread Ghislain ATEMEZING
@Finn: I've tried to modify your second query to "Famous French females" and I get a time out...Do you have the same issue? El mar., 2 ago. 2016 a las 18:33, Finn Aarup Nielsen () escribió: > > > On 08/02/2016 03:01 PM, Markus Kroetzsch wrote: > > On 02.08.2016 13:11, Ghislain

Re: [Wikidata] An attribute for "famous person"

2016-08-02 Thread Andrew Gray
On 2 August 2016 at 20:41, Markus Kroetzsch wrote: > > I just proposed the simple and straightforward way to solve the practical > problem at hand. It leads to shorter, more readable queries that execute > faster. (I don't claim originality for this; it is the

Re: [Wikidata] An attribute for "famous person"

2016-08-02 Thread Markus Kroetzsch
On 02.08.2016 20:59, Daniel Kinzler wrote: Am 02.08.2016 um 20:19 schrieb Markus Kroetzsch: Oh, there is a little misunderstanding here. I have not suggested to create a property "number of sitelinks in this document". What I propose instead is to create a property "number of sitelinks for the

Re: [Wikidata] An attribute for "famous person"

2016-08-02 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 02.08.2016 um 20:19 schrieb Markus Kroetzsch: > Oh, there is a little misunderstanding here. I have not suggested to create a > property "number of sitelinks in this document". What I propose instead is to > create a property "number of sitelinks for the document associated with this > entity".

Re: [Wikidata] An attribute for "famous person"

2016-08-02 Thread Markus Kroetzsch
On 02.08.2016 20:06, Daniel Kinzler wrote: Am 02.08.2016 um 18:41 schrieb Andrew Gray: I'd agree with both interpretations - the majority of people in Wikidata are Using the existence of Wikipedia articles as a threshold, as suggested, seems a pretty good test - it's flawed, of course, but it's

Re: [Wikidata] An attribute for "famous person"

2016-08-02 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 02.08.2016 um 18:41 schrieb Andrew Gray: > I'd agree with both interpretations - the majority of people in Wikidata are > Using the existence of Wikipedia articles as a threshold, as suggested, seems > a > pretty good test - it's flawed, of course, but it's easy to check for and > works > as

Re: [Wikidata] An attribute for "famous person"

2016-08-02 Thread Finn Aarup Nielsen
On 08/02/2016 03:01 PM, Markus Kroetzsch wrote: On 02.08.2016 13:11, Ghislain ATEMEZING wrote: Thanks Yuri. I will try to define a kind a metric for those having a number of wikipedia entries. For example, a person with 127 entries would be "famous" while another with just 10 is not

Re: [Wikidata] An attribute for "famous person"

2016-08-02 Thread Markus Kroetzsch
On 02.08.2016 13:11, Ghislain ATEMEZING wrote: Thanks Yuri. I will try to define a kind a metric for those having a number of wikipedia entries. For example, a person with 127 entries would be "famous" while another with just 10 is not "famous"... Side remark @Stas: it could be very helpful

Re: [Wikidata] An attribute for "famous person"

2016-08-02 Thread Martynas Jusevičius
It seems to me it should be a class (a set of people), not an attribute. On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 1:11 PM, Ghislain ATEMEZING wrote: > Thanks Yuri. I will try to define a kind a metric for those having a number > of wikipedia entries. For example, a person with 127

Re: [Wikidata] An attribute for "famous person"

2016-08-02 Thread Ghislain ATEMEZING
Thanks Yuri. I will try to define a kind a metric for those having a number of wikipedia entries. For example, a person with 127 entries would be "famous" while another with just 10 is not "famous"... El mar., 2 ago. 2016 a las 12:52, Yuri Astrakhan () escribió: > Any

Re: [Wikidata] An attribute for "famous person"

2016-08-02 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
Any person in wikidata is "famous" - otherwise they wouldn't be notable and therefore wouldn't be there)) If you prefer the stricter notability requirement(as used by Wikipedia), search only for those that have a wikipedia page On Aug 2, 2016 1:44 PM, "Ghislain ATEMEZING"

Re: [Wikidata] An attribute for "famous person"

2016-08-02 Thread Ghislain ATEMEZING
Thanks Gerard, I understand your point. Of course having an item is the first key for notability. You agree that if famous in Lille, then famous in France. I've just seen this page http://www.thefamouspeople.com/ and I wonder how they make their classification. Best, Ghislain El mar., 2 ago.

Re: [Wikidata] An attribute for "famous person"

2016-08-02 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, There is not. The problem is that famous is very ambiguous. Famous in France or famous in Lille? They may be notable and that is why they have an item. Famous for a reason is possible; for instance because they won a prize. So yes and no. Thanks, GerardM On 2 August 2016 at 12:43,

[Wikidata] An attribute for "famous person"

2016-08-02 Thread Ghislain ATEMEZING
Ahoy, I am curious to know if there is a way to know that a given person is "famous" in Wikidata. I want for example to retrieve "all famous French people born after a given date". Thanks in advance for your help. Best, Ghislain -- --- "Love all, trust a few, do wrong to none" (W.