Re: [Wikidata] WDQS updates have stopped

2015-11-19 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 19.11.2015 10:40, Gerard Meijssen wrote: Hoi, Because once it is a requirement and not a recommendation, it will be impossible to reverse this. The insidious creep of more rules and requirements will make Wikidata increasingly less of a wiki. Arguably most of the edits done by bot are of a

Re: [Wikidata] WDQS updates have stopped

2015-11-19 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Because once it is a requirement and not a recommendation, it will be impossible to reverse this. The insidious creep of more rules and requirements will make Wikidata increasingly less of a wiki. Arguably most of the edits done by bot are of a higher quality than those done by hand. It is

Re: [Wikidata] WDQS updates have stopped

2015-11-19 Thread Lukas Benedix
Is there any evidence, that the quality of bot edits is higher than edits by humans? LB > Hoi, > Because once it is a requirement and not a recommendation, it will be > impossible to reverse this. The insidious creep of more rules and > requirements will make Wikidata increasingly less of a

Re: [Wikidata] WDQS updates have stopped

2015-11-18 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 7:39 PM, James Heald wrote: > Any idea what's going on with the SPARQL service ? > > Usually the data gets updated every minute or two, but it's over 11 hours > now. My best guess looking at things right now is that SuccuBot is making a huge number of

Re: [Wikidata] WDQS updates have stopped

2015-11-18 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! >> Usually the data gets updated every minute or two, but it's over 11 hours >> now. > > My best guess looking at things right now is that SuccuBot is making a > huge number of edits and the updater for the query service might not > be able to handle that yet. Stas: Could you have a look?

Re: [Wikidata] WDQS updates have stopped

2015-11-18 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Stas Malyshev wrote: > Yes, looks like there's a large volume of updates, so the service is > several hours behind, but it seems to be catching up now. What's the bot > is doing?

Re: [Wikidata] WDQS updates have stopped

2015-11-18 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! >> Yes, looks like there's a large volume of updates, so the service is >> several hours behind, but it seems to be catching up now. What's the bot >> is doing? > > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/SuccuBot Last set of edits seems suspect to me - e.g. adding copies of en

Re: [Wikidata] WDQS updates have stopped

2015-11-18 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 7:03 PM, Andra Waagmeester wrote: > How do you do add "hunderds (if not thousands)" items per minute? We > typically see speeds of 20-30 items per minute with our bot account. For our > purposes it would be convenient if that number can be increased.

Re: [Wikidata] WDQS updates have stopped

2015-11-18 Thread Andra Waagmeester
How do you do add "hunderds (if not thousands)" items per minute? We typically see speeds of 20-30 items per minute with our bot account. For our purposes it would be convenient if that number can be increased. On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Stas Malyshev wrote: > Hi!

Re: [Wikidata] WDQS updates have stopped

2015-11-18 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! The service have caught up now, but in the near future I would like to ask to make the bots throttle the edits a bit, for now. In the meantime, I'll look into speeding up the update process further, but given the nature of the database it may still be possible to temporarily overload it with

Re: [Wikidata] WDQS updates have stopped

2015-11-18 Thread Tom Morris
So, the page that Markus points to describes heeding the replication lag limit as a recommendation. Since running a bot is a privilege, not a right, why isn't the "recommendation" a requirement instead of a recommendation? Tom On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 3:30 PM, Markus Krötzsch <

Re: [Wikidata] WDQS updates have stopped

2015-11-18 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, So in essence, WDQ and WDQS have the same problem of keeping up with the database. How do the two compare? Thanks, GerardM On 19 November 2015 at 01:48, Stas Malyshev wrote: > Hi! > > The service have caught up now, but in the near future I would like to > ask