Re: [Wikidata] accessing data from a wikidata concept page
Hi! The links would point to the standard export URLs: * https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q423111.json * https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q423111.rdf Speaking about these, shouldn't we also have link rel=alternate for export formats in the header? -- Stas Malyshev smalys...@wikimedia.org ___ Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
Re: [Wikidata] accessing data from a wikidata concept page
Thanks for the examples :) You're right that the current situation with leading back to the same page is confusing. This needs design input. I've opened https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102155 for that. Please do add further input you have to that. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Product Manager for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
Re: [Wikidata] accessing data from a wikidata concept page
On 11.06.2015 15:06, Lydia Pintscher wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:08 AM, Markus Krötzsch mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org wrote: Hi Ben, That's a very good point. We should really have direct links to JSON and RDF for each item (e.g., at the top-right, which seems to be the custom now on many web sites). We don't have an XML export (unless you count RDF/XML). Do you have links to some examples how other websites do this? Here are two examples: * http://www.deutsche-biographie.de/sfz99.html * http://d-nb.info/gnd/1026312019 (that's more to the right than to the top) Wikipedia already has links in the upper right of its pages to map services. Somewhere similar might be intuitive. Of course, this type of prominent link only makes sense for sites that are primarily data repositories. BBC Music, for example, does not have an RDF download link on every page, although they provide RDF. Markus ___ Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
Re: [Wikidata] accessing data from a wikidata concept page
Hi Ben, On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:25 AM, Benjamin Good ben.mcgee.g...@gmail.com wrote: I recently introduced wikidata to a (very computationally savvy) colleague by sending him this link: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q423111 His response is indicative of an interface problem that I think is actually very important: Is there a simple way to get the RDF for a given concept? The page seems to only present the english names for the concept and its linked concepts. Leaving aside RDF, it is really not straightforward for newcomers to get from a concept page like that to the corresponding structured data. This could be solved with the consistent addition of a simple link like view json/xml/rdf to each of the concept pages on wikidata. They would just be links to the API calls: e.g. http://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=wbgetentitiesids=Q423111 in this case. As the concept pages themselves get tossed around a lot, such an addition could be extremely valuable in teaching the uninitiated what its all about and would come at very little cost - to me, this button is akin to the 'view source' action on web pages - an absolutely fundamental part of how the web grows - even now. There is a link in the sidebar titled concept URI which takes you to the URI for the concept of the current page and does content negotiation. I am trying to strike a balance between making this more visible and not overloading the UI and confusing those users who have no idea about any of this. Suggestions for how to achieve this better than we currently do are welcome. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Product Manager for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
Re: [Wikidata] accessing data from a wikidata concept page
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:08 AM, Markus Krötzsch mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org wrote: Hi Ben, That's a very good point. We should really have direct links to JSON and RDF for each item (e.g., at the top-right, which seems to be the custom now on many web sites). We don't have an XML export (unless you count RDF/XML). Do you have links to some examples how other websites do this? The links would point to the standard export URLs: * https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q423111.json * https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q423111.rdf Regarding RDF, the live RDF export has been rewritten and is almost final now. Right now, the RDF exported on the site is still the old one that does not contain all data yet, but this will change soon. Yeah I'd rather not promote it more before we have that sorted. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Product Manager for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
[Wikidata] accessing data from a wikidata concept page
I recently introduced wikidata to a (very computationally savvy) colleague by sending him this link: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q423111 His response is indicative of an interface problem that I think is actually very important: Is there a simple way to get the RDF for a given concept? The page seems to only present the english names for the concept and its linked concepts. Leaving aside RDF, it is really not straightforward for newcomers to get from a concept page like that to the corresponding structured data. This could be solved with the consistent addition of a simple link like view json/xml/rdf to each of the concept pages on wikidata. They would just be links to the API calls: e.g. http://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=wbgetentitiesids=Q423111 in this case. As the concept pages themselves get tossed around a lot, such an addition could be extremely valuable in teaching the uninitiated what its all about and would come at very little cost - to me, this button is akin to the 'view source' action on web pages - an absolutely fundamental part of how the web grows - even now. -Ben ___ Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
