[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T103102: [Story] Take in other projects sidebar out of beta features

IKhitron added a comment. Hello. It works, indeed, and I can see Commons links, but not the wiktionary ones in some (not all) the articles. It should be like that? Thank you. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103102 EMAIL PREFERENCES

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T103102: [Story] Take in other projects sidebar out of beta features

gerritbot added a comment. Change 270939 merged by jenkins-bot: Take "in other projects" sidebar out of beta https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/270939 TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103102 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T103102: [Story] Take in other projects sidebar out of beta features

Lydia_Pintscher added a comment. Based on the comments here we will enable it for everyone but Dutch Wikipedia. If there are any issues we can later disable it again for any project that really doesn't want it. Dutch Wikipedia probably should think about moving to this one. TASK DETAIL

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T103102: [Story] Take in other projects sidebar out of beta features

gerritbot added a subscriber: gerritbot. gerritbot added a comment. Change 270939 had a related patch set uploaded (by Aude): Take "in other projects" sidebar out of beta https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/270939 TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103102 EMAIL PREFERENCES

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T103102: [Story] Take in other projects sidebar out of beta features

Lydia_Pintscher added a comment. Sorry. My mistake. It is the 16th of February. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103102 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Lydia_Pintscher Cc: MGChecker, putnik, Liuxinyu970226, hoo, Johan,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T103102: [Story] Take in other projects sidebar out of beta features

Lydia_Pintscher added a comment. WE have now scheduled this for February 23rd. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103102 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Lydia_Pintscher Cc: MGChecker, putnik, Liuxinyu970226, hoo, Johan,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T103102: [Story] Take in other projects sidebar out of beta features

putnik added a comment. In https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103102#1933779, @Romaine wrote: > On nl-wiki we give a preference to linking to Commons categories as those > form the basic navigational system, and not to Commons galleries that are > often considered not useful. If we set the

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T103102: [Story] Take in other projects sidebar out of beta features

Lydia_Pintscher added a comment. @putnik: we can not do that on more wikis. It fries the servers. We need another solution that hoo is working on right now. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103102 EMAIL PREFERENCES

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T103102: [Story] Take in other projects sidebar out of beta features

putnik added a comment. @Lydia_Pintscher: I'm optimized script a little to take the Commons link from the page if it have already been displayed via Lua. But for other projects this is probably not suitable. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103102 EMAIL PREFERENCES

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T103102: [Story] Take in other projects sidebar out of beta features

Nemo_bis added a comment. We should probably immediately replace the code at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:InterProject.js with https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:InterProject.js, which AFAIK is fully compatible. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103102

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T103102: [Story] Take in other projects sidebar out of beta features

Tpt added a comment. @Romaine You could maybe do just like Russian Wikipedia or the French Wikisource and use the Wikibase other project sidebar as a basic and add your additional links to it. With that nlwiki would have a basic sidebar for without JavaScript readers and you would be able to

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T103102: [Story] Take in other projects sidebar out of beta features

Jheald added a subscriber: Jheald. Jheald added a comment. It's good to see this going forwards at last. But what is the progress with two long-standing requests ? - Moving the standard "wikidata item" link into this group, to make it easier to find ? - Attempting by default to include a link

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T103102: [Story] Take in other projects sidebar out of beta features

Romaine added a subscriber: Romaine. Romaine added a comment. On nl-wiki we have for years an alternative larger system that already shows the interwiki links to sister projects in the sidebar. Enabling this for everyone on nl-wiki is useless and in almost all the cases duplicate to the

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T103102: [Story] Take in other projects sidebar out of beta features

Lydia_Pintscher added a comment. Every preference we add adds clutter, maintenance cost and most importantly makes it harder for users to find what they actually want in the preferences. So any additional option we add needs to be very well justified and actually make things better for a

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T103102: [Story] Take in other projects sidebar out of beta features

Glaisher added a comment. Adding `#p-wikibase-otherprojects {display: none;}` to your stylesheet would work if you want to opt-out once the beta pref is removed. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103102 EMAIL PREFERENCES

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T103102: [Story] Take in other projects sidebar out of beta features

Billinghurst added a comment. @nemo_bis Nowhere did I say that it was not requested, nor unwanted, however, it becomes all or nothing per community, and in our history we have provided things called user preferences to allow users to configure what they see. Thousands have opted in, and

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T103102: [Story] Take in other projects sidebar out of beta features

Nemo_bis added a comment. In https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103102#1892570, @Tpt wrote: > > So basically: opt-in or opt-out? > > What we could do is a middle way: notify the projects that if they do not ask > to opt-out before this specific date the other project sidebar will be enable >

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T103102: [Story] Take in other projects sidebar out of beta features

Billinghurst added a subscriber: Billinghurst. Billinghurst added a comment. It should not be all in or all out. I would much prefer that this is within the scope of the individual in what they see, not enforcing more components into sidebars, Please have a configuration option for a user to

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T103102: [Story] Take in other projects sidebar out of beta features

Lydia_Pintscher added a comment. As I said on the mailing list I do not want to add a user-option for this. It would be another cut into the already bad preferences for arguably little gain. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103102 EMAIL PREFERENCES

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T103102: [Story] Take in other projects sidebar out of beta features

Billinghurst added a comment. Little gain? For whom? You are forcing communities to choose, which usually puts unhappiness into the losing part of any consensus. You are also practically forcing this to the default ON, yet where are the results of the use in beta that this there is a

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T103102: [Story] Take in other projects sidebar out of beta features

Nemo_bis added a comment. Billinghurst, this is the implementation of a long-standing feature request that was the most voted bug on bugzilla, had an RfC on Meta-Wiki and has thousands of users actively opting in. Moreover, it's the default state on multiple "top 10" Wikipedias. It is

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T103102: [Story] Take in other projects sidebar out of beta features

Tpt added a comment. > So basically: opt-in or opt-out? What we could do is a middle way: notify the projects that if they do not ask to opt-out before this specific date the other project sidebar will be enable by default for all user. We should also make clear that the beta feature will be

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T103102: [Story] Take in other projects sidebar out of beta features

Lydia_Pintscher added a comment. Alright. From my side we can push it out and make it the default. I assume not all wikis will want it. We can disable it per wiki. Question is do we start with enabling it for all and then exclude the ones that don't want it or do we ask who wants it and enable

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T103102: [Story] Take in other projects sidebar out of beta features

Lydia_Pintscher added a comment. So basically: opt-in or opt-out? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103102 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Lydia_Pintscher Cc: Nemo_bis, Addshore, Snaevar, Mbch331, Ricordisamoa, Bene,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T103102: [Story] Take in other projects sidebar out of beta features

Nemo_bis added a subscriber: Nemo_bis. Nemo_bis added a comment. This feature is quite stable by now and the current dependencies are not real blockers IMHO, just nice to have that until unresolved maintain the situation as good (or as bad) as it was before this feature. The real blocker was

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T103102: [Story] Take in other projects sidebar out of beta features

Jdforrester-WMF added a comment. Hey. As mentioned by me on wikitech-l just now , this Beta Feature has sat for far too long with no development that I can see. It's many months past its due date to be pushed to all