[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T142198: [feature request] add option to display BC dates in Wikidata Query Service as on Wikidata

2016-08-15 Thread gerritbot
gerritbot added a comment. Change 304835 had a related patch set uploaded (by Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)): Rewrite _formatDate to support the full date range https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/304835TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T142198EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settin

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T142198: [feature request] add option to display BC dates in Wikidata Query Service as on Wikidata

2016-08-11 Thread Jc3s5h
Jc3s5h added a comment. I see the documentation of the JSON data model has been revised today; see this version from mediawiki. So now we have different formats, but our documentation now explains to users that these formats are intended to be different. That's a lot better. Now a few tweaks are s

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T142198: [feature request] add option to display BC dates in Wikidata Query Service as on Wikidata

2016-08-11 Thread Jc3s5h
Jc3s5h added a comment. In T142198#2544939, @Smalyshev wrote: Since most dates will be Gregorian, I doubt always displaying calendar is beneficial. Either make sure every date displayed is Gregorian, or make sure the calendar is displayed. Otherwise the person who used to working with Gregor

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T142198: [feature request] add option to display BC dates in Wikidata Query Service as on Wikidata

2016-08-11 Thread Smalyshev
Smalyshev added a comment. JSON, RDF, the user interface, and the time stamp of the date shown in diffs are presenting seemingly conflicting information to the public. Therefore, they're all wrong. No, they are not wrong. They are using different formats. The format for RDF data is XSD 1.1.TASK DE

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T142198: [feature request] add option to display BC dates in Wikidata Query Service as on Wikidata

2016-08-11 Thread Jc3s5h
Jc3s5h added a comment. In T142198#2544647, @Smalyshev wrote: We can not know with certainty what whoever have put the dates into Wikibase meant. What however we can do is to define how we interpret the user input and stored data. And we have no choice but to do that - we have to put *somethi

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T142198: [feature request] add option to display BC dates in Wikidata Query Service as on Wikidata

2016-08-11 Thread Smalyshev
Smalyshev added a comment. I see that the if the date was a Julian calendar date, WQS would convert the Gregorian date received from the RDF to the equivalent Julian date, and not mention in the display which calendar this is. This is probably not right, if the day is given and it's outside the ra

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T142198: [feature request] add option to display BC dates in Wikidata Query Service as on Wikidata

2016-08-11 Thread Jc3s5h
Jc3s5h added a comment. In T142198#2544647, @Smalyshev wrote: Also, there is controversy over whether the author(s) of the RDF formatter have correcty interpreted what is stored in the data base and are converting the year correctly. Could you please explain what you mean? I'm the author of the R

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T142198: [feature request] add option to display BC dates in Wikidata Query Service as on Wikidata

2016-08-11 Thread Jc3s5h
Jc3s5h added a comment. After the revision of the task description around 1700 UT on Aug 11, I see that the if the date was a Julian calendar date, WQS would convert the Gregorian date received from the RDF to the equivalent Julian date, and not mention in the display which calendar this is. I seri

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T142198: [feature request] add option to display BC dates in Wikidata Query Service as on Wikidata

2016-08-11 Thread Esc3300
Esc3300 added a comment. In T142198#2544647, @Smalyshev wrote: [..] We can not know with certainty what whoever have put the dates into Wikibase meant. [.] A problem I found with BC dates is that users input years for facts of which only the decade or century are considered certain.TASK DETAILh

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T142198: [feature request] add option to display BC dates in Wikidata Query Service as on Wikidata

2016-08-11 Thread Smalyshev
Smalyshev added a comment. Also, there is controversy over whether the author(s) of the RDF formatter have correcty interpreted what is stored in the data base and are converting the year correctly. Could you please explain what you mean? I'm the author of the RDF format (at least one of :) and I