[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T144687: Change $wgArticleCountMethod in Wikidata from default ('link') to 'any'

Romaine added a comment. In T144687#2643669, @Lydia_Pintscher wrote: I think the question hinges on is an item without a statement useful or not. Right now we have 2.75 Million of them of 23.8 Million items in total. That is quite a lot and we definitely need to get this number down. At the same

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T144687: Change $wgArticleCountMethod in Wikidata from default ('link') to 'any'

hoo added a comment. In T144687#2655095, @Urbanecm wrote: @hoo What is an article is defined by the config, isn't it? Or at least how Wikidata count them. But let say an article is a content page or valid item. Is it more clear? The relevant code is in Wikibase's Item::isCountable (see

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T144687: Change $wgArticleCountMethod in Wikidata from default ('link') to 'any'

Urbanecm added a comment. @hoo What is an article is defined by the config, isn't it? Or at least how Wikidata count them. But let say an article is a content page or valid item. Is it more clear?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144687EMAIL

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T144687: Change $wgArticleCountMethod in Wikidata from default ('link') to 'any'

Urbanecm added a comment. If anybody see any problem, please reopen and comment this task.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144687EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: UrbanecmCc: Stashbot, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Esc3300, YMS,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T144687: Change $wgArticleCountMethod in Wikidata from default ('link') to 'any'

Stashbot added a comment. Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2016-09-20T13:05:33Z] Synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php: SWAT: [[gerrit:308430|Change $wgArticleCountMethod in Wikidata from default (link) to any (T144687)]] (duration: 00m 47s)TASK

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T144687: Change $wgArticleCountMethod in Wikidata from default ('link') to 'any'

gerritbot added a comment. Change 308430 merged by jenkins-bot: Change $wgArticleCountMethod in Wikidata from default ('link') to 'any' https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/308430TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144687EMAIL

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T144687: Change $wgArticleCountMethod in Wikidata from default ('link') to 'any'

Urbanecm added a comment. Will be deployed today, 13:00-14:00 UTC.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144687EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: UrbanecmCc: Esc3300, YMS, Lydia_Pintscher, hoo, Liuxinyu970226, gerritbot, Matanya, JEumerus,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T144687: Change $wgArticleCountMethod in Wikidata from default ('link') to 'any'

Esc3300 added a comment. Properties and whatever new types of entities we will be getting should probably be included as well. Most items without any statements do include sitelinks: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Database_reports/without_claims_by_siteTASK

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T144687: Change $wgArticleCountMethod in Wikidata from default ('link') to 'any'

YMS added a comment. Wikidata items without statements usually still are containers for sitelinks and thus actively used from various Wikimedia projects. We can not call them useless. We should not ignore them and hide them, and if it's only in the count.TASK

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T144687: Change $wgArticleCountMethod in Wikidata from default ('link') to 'any'

Lydia_Pintscher added a comment. I think the question hinges on is an item without a statement useful or not. Right now we have 2.75 Million of them of 23.8 Million items in total. That is quite a lot and we definitely need to get this number down. At the same time the number on the main page is

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T144687: Change $wgArticleCountMethod in Wikidata from default ('link') to 'any'

hoo added a comment. We are using ItemContent::isStub right now which basically checks that the item is not a redirect and has at least one statement (the Item::isEmpty check on line 238 is redundant with the Item::getStatements()->isEmpty() call).TASK

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T144687: Change $wgArticleCountMethod in Wikidata from default ('link') to 'any'

Pasleim added a comment. In T144687#2608519, @hoo wrote: Currently we consider an Item a "valid" (countable) article if it has either at least one statement or at least one sitelink (as far as I remember). I doubt it's implemented like that. Both the number of items with at least one statement

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T144687: Change $wgArticleCountMethod in Wikidata from default ('link') to 'any'

Urbanecm added a comment. I've descheduled this change. Please gather more consensus.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144687EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: UrbanecmCc: Lydia_Pintscher, hoo, Liuxinyu970226, gerritbot, Matanya,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T144687: Change $wgArticleCountMethod in Wikidata from default ('link') to 'any'

Urbanecm added a comment. @hoo Why empty items shouldn't be counted as items? Is there any reason for it?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144687EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: UrbanecmCc: Lydia_Pintscher, hoo, Liuxinyu970226,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T144687: Change $wgArticleCountMethod in Wikidata from default ('link') to 'any'

hoo added a comment. In T144687#2608517, @abian wrote: Thanks. Does that mean that $wgArticleCountMethod isn't working in Wikidata as a usual 'link'? Which are those current measurement methods? Not sure whether it will work, or whether we fully override the behavior. Currently we consider an

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T144687: Change $wgArticleCountMethod in Wikidata from default ('link') to 'any'

abian added a comment. Thanks. Does that mean that $wgArticleCountMethod isn't working in Wikidata as a usual 'link'? Which are those current measurement methods?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144687EMAIL

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T144687: Change $wgArticleCountMethod in Wikidata from default ('link') to 'any'

hoo added a comment. (Cross-posted from gerrit) Wikibase on purpose counts articles differently than normal MediaWiki. Changing this should only be done after a thorough discussion, I think… this should probably also be changed in Wikibase in case the community no longer agrees to the measurement

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T144687: Change $wgArticleCountMethod in Wikidata from default ('link') to 'any'

Urbanecm added a comment. Should be deployed during Morning SWAT window (September 5th, 18:00-19:00 UTC).TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144687EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: UrbanecmCc: gerritbot, Matanya, JEumerus, Pasleim,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T144687: Change $wgArticleCountMethod in Wikidata from default ('link') to 'any'

gerritbot added a comment. Change 308430 had a related patch set uploaded (by Urbanecm): Change $wgArticleCountMethod in Wikidata from default ('link') to 'any' https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/308430TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144687EMAIL