[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T162331: Provide tools for processing obfuscated Chinese geodata (GCJ-02, BD-09)

2018-10-12 Thread Liuxinyu970226
Liuxinyu970226 added a comment. Another trial? https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/coordinate_location_GCJ02TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T162331EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Liuxinyu970226Cc: Esc3300, Nikk

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T162331: Provide tools for processing obfuscated Chinese geodata (GCJ-02, BD-09)

2018-01-09 Thread Arthur2e5
Arthur2e5 added a comment. For now at least GCJ-02 data can be justified since stuff like Geolocator and Coordinates use Google Maps. Baidu also has some click-to-see-coord feature, so I guess BD-09 data, although definitely limited to one proprietrary source that everyone uses, may be justfied as

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T162331: Provide tools for processing obfuscated Chinese geodata (GCJ-02, BD-09)

2017-08-26 Thread Esc3300
Esc3300 added a comment. The earlier suggestion to store GCJ02 data in a separate property seems preferable ..TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T162331EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Esc3300Cc: Esc3300, Nikki, PokestarFan, Pnorman, C

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T162331: Provide tools for processing obfuscated Chinese geodata (GCJ-02, BD-09)

2017-08-25 Thread Arthur2e5
Arthur2e5 added a comment. I doubt that proposal's usefulness in our case, as WGS84-like (including ITRS) lat-lon is fairly ubiquitous on our planet. Adding a property for solving Earth problems also means complicating things like Template:Coord, which is something I don't want to do for "systems"

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T162331: Provide tools for processing obfuscated Chinese geodata (GCJ-02, BD-09)

2017-08-25 Thread Liuxinyu970226
Liuxinyu970226 added a comment. See also Wikidata:Property proposal/Coordinate reference system, a property proposal that maybe reflect this issue in a property assigning way.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T162331EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailp

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T162331: Provide tools for processing obfuscated Chinese geodata (GCJ-02, BD-09)

2017-07-31 Thread Arthur2e5
Arthur2e5 added a comment.Herald added a subscriber: PokestarFan. A bit of addition to that "AGF hat" part. It turns out that these twisted variations of WGS-84 do see widespread use out of map vendors' maps, and that's not limited to the gov's mandatory GCJ-02. Ningbo Government's database for his

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T162331: Provide tools for processing obfuscated Chinese geodata (GCJ-02, BD-09)

2017-04-06 Thread C933103
C933103 added a comment. According to some pages I have read from google, it seems like in the US only the compilation of data is protected while data itself are not and the creation of databasr also need to have some creativity in order to make the database fulfil copyright law, and in the EU ther

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T162331: Provide tools for processing obfuscated Chinese geodata (GCJ-02, BD-09)

2017-04-06 Thread Arthur2e5
Arthur2e5 added a comment. Good question. With my AGF hat on, I would say that maps served in mainland China, Google or Baidu, also provide distorted/shift aerial imagery to mask the deviation applied, so "good guys" who look for places on the wrong aerial map are still screwed. With that map off b

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T162331: Provide tools for processing obfuscated Chinese geodata (GCJ-02, BD-09)

2017-04-06 Thread Pnorman
Pnorman added a comment. Is systematic copying of coordinates from other sources not problematic anyways because it means the data infringes copyright and/or DB rights in many jurisdictions?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T162331EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settin

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T162331: Provide tools for processing obfuscated Chinese geodata (GCJ-02, BD-09)

2017-04-06 Thread Arthur2e5
Arthur2e5 added a comment. For people looking for a solution for now, I have set up a simple user gadget for conversion (web version). I have added links to the web version to the CN section for GeoTemplate on zhwiki and enwiki. I am planning on adding the said map previews to the web demo, but tha