[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T221921: Provision search endpoint for SDC. Requirements from Product Team.

Keegan added a comment. At this point it looks like we're a little over two weeks out from release: - OAuth code is ready but still needs to be merged - Deploying configuration changes to the UI in order to customize the title, logo, examples, etc for the Commons Query Service proved

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T221921: Provision search endpoint for SDC. Requirements from Product Team.

Keegan added a comment. *FYI: this work is still on track to be completed by the end of this month. We'll continue to provide updates as we get closer. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T221921 EMAIL PREFERENCES

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T221921: Provision search endpoint for SDC. Requirements from Product Team.

Husky added a comment. @CBogen cool, thanks for the update. Really looking forward to be able to test something! TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T221921 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Husky Cc: David_Haskiya_WMSE,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T221921: Provision search endpoint for SDC. Requirements from Product Team.

CBogen added a comment. Here is another brief update: The SPARQL endpoint for Commons is moving along well. The data has been loaded and federation is working. Up next is work on authentication, automated data reload, and necessary UI updates. We’re hoping to have an initial release in

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T221921: Provision search endpoint for SDC. Requirements from Product Team.

Keegan added a comment. In T221921#6104499 , @Jarekt wrote: > For me the big issue is quality control. As more people and bots are adding more statements, I am concerned about people finding multiple creative ways to store the

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T221921: Provision search endpoint for SDC. Requirements from Product Team.

Jarekt added a comment. For me the big issue is quality control. As more people and bots are adding more statements, I am concerned about people finding multiple creative ways to store the same type of information, resulting in multiple parallel data models. SPARQL endpoint and property

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T221921: Provision search endpoint for SDC. Requirements from Product Team.

Husky added a comment. In T221921#6103577 , @Spinster wrote: > As for a SPARQL endpoint being challenging for many end users from an UX perspective - I would say: don't underestimate our end users and community. +1. SPARQL is

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T221921: Provision search endpoint for SDC. Requirements from Product Team.

Spinster added a comment. In T221921#6097113 , @CBogen wrote: > > - The work to create a SPARQL endpoint for Commons has been re-prioritized. Our teams will be working on it over the next few months and the search team is

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T221921: Provision search endpoint for SDC. Requirements from Product Team.

CBogen added a comment. Here is a brief update. @Keegan will also be posting an update to the talk thread today. - The work to create a SPARQL endpoint for Commons has been re-prioritized. Our teams will be

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T221921: Provision search endpoint for SDC. Requirements from Product Team.

CBogen added a comment. We recognize how important this is and will be meeting over the next few weeks to determine a plan forward and a timeline. We'll begin providing regular updates here and on the talk thread as

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T221921: Provision search endpoint for SDC. Requirements from Product Team.

Multichill added a comment. In T221921#5977857 , @Gehel wrote: > Thank you all for your patience! Can you give an indication how much longer you're going to test our patience? Weeks? Months? Years? TASK DETAIL

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T221921: Provision search endpoint for SDC. Requirements from Product Team.

Jheald added a comment. Yes, there's a cost to you of providing a service based on current WDQS, that then has to be ripped out for a new version based on WDQS 2. But consider how little cost that change is for users (since what they interact with will be essentially unchanged - SPARQL

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T221921: Provision search endpoint for SDC. Requirements from Product Team.

Gehel added a comment. Sorry the the misunderstanding here. It was never our intention to not provide a SPARQL endpoint for Commons. But given the trouble we have at the moment with WDQS, we are focusing on stabilising our existing services before adding new ones. With the work we are doing

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T221921: Provision search endpoint for SDC. Requirements from Product Team.

Husky added a comment. In T221921#5973902 , @Jarekt wrote: > That would be great. I think the frustration is due to expectations management. +1. It's pretty hard to stay excited about SDoC when there's no proper way to view the

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T221921: Provision search endpoint for SDC. Requirements from Product Team.

Keegan added a comment. I'm aware of how old this ticket is and the pain it's caused trying to move it forward. There seems to be some miscommunication going on here and it's escalating, I'm going to work with some folks on clarifying intentions. TASK DETAIL

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T221921: Provision search endpoint for SDC. Requirements from Product Team.

Jane023 added a comment. I agree with earlier posts and would say I have zero motivation to contribute to SDoC until such a query service is available to me, because working on paintings I find Wikidata workflows much easier to monitor and lacking that for Commons I can't make any overviews

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T221921: Provision search endpoint for SDC. Requirements from Product Team.

Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE added a comment. I would like to remind everyone in this discussion that we have a **Code of Conduct **. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T221921 EMAIL PREFERENCES

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T221921: Provision search endpoint for SDC. Requirements from Product Team.

Jheald added a comment. Engineering a completely new search facility for Commons Data rather than using SPARQL is a *stupid* *waste* *of* *time* *and* *resources*. Also it will be very challenging to come up with a solution that can handle trees, and qualifers, and combinations, as well

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T221921: Provision search endpoint for SDC. Requirements from Product Team.

Spinster added a comment. The GLAMs that I interact with also ask very impatiently for a SPARQL endpoint, as a means for themselves and for supporting Wikimedians to check and maintain their own collections on Commons. WDQS is a crucial component of refined batch maintenance and editing

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T221921: Provision search endpoint for SDC. Requirements from Product Team.

Abit added a comment. > Not providing the promised SPARQL endpoint for Structured data on Commons is effectively pulling the plug on the whole project. We will still build a tool to get out Commons data, one that lets you navigate the ontology tree and have similar output formats. 

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T221921: Provision search endpoint for SDC. Requirements from Product Team.

Gehel added a comment. Some of the use cases described here are already supported by search (wbstatement keywords, etc...). We are not going to work on a new SPARQL endpoint before we have a scaling strategy for the current WDQS. It looks like the remaining use cases described here might be

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T221921: Provision search endpoint for SDC. Requirements from Product Team.

Smalyshev added a comment. The outcomes of the chat today seem to be: 1. We're making separate Commons query service, on separate servers 2. The estimate for the data size is: the number of items will eventually be the same as Wikidata, but the item size probably substantially less. It

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T221921: Provision search endpoint for SDC. Requirements from Product Team.

Abit added a comment. Alright, @Smalyshev and @Ramsey-WMF , I've done my best at starting this ticket. Please adjust as needed :) TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T221921 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Abit Cc: