MasinAlDujailiWMDE added a comment.
Did someone ask for a zone file? I have a zone file! Here, take a zone file! ;-)
F27219415: export_zone_wikiba.se.txtTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99531EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Dzahn,
Dzahn added a comment.
In T99531#4511979, @BBlack wrote:
Create a wikiba.se microsite in WMF infra (already done by @Dzahn I believe, sourcing from https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/wikibase/wikiba.se/+/master )
Yep, that exists already since quite a while. The class is
Dzahn added a comment.
these are the contact options listed on the site at http://wikiba.se/contact/ (in case it's down) to find an admin:
It's also possible to ask for support via the Wikidata project:
Mailing Lists
https://twitter.com/wikidata
#wikidata on irc.freenode.net
Contact the
Addshore added a comment.
Indeed it is:
F25772293: image.png
$ ping wikiba.se
Pinging wikiba.se [89.31.143.100] with 32 bytes of data:
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Ping statistics for 89.31.143.100:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4
abian added a comment.
In case you want to analyze the situation, wikiba.se is down right now.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99531EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Dzahn, abianCc: WMDE-leszek, abian, BBlack,
Addshore added a comment.
In T99531#4513194, @abian wrote:
In T99531#4411395, @abian wrote:
wikiba.se is a bit unstable. Today it has been down for some hours (from ~1:00 UTC to ~5:30 UTC). Last issues were detected on 31 May (~0:00 UTC), 24 May (~19:00-20:00 UTC), 10 May (~11:15 UTC) and 9 May
abian added a comment.
In T99531#4411395, @abian wrote:
wikiba.se is a bit unstable. Today it has been down for some hours (from ~1:00 UTC to ~5:30 UTC). Last issues were detected on 31 May (~0:00 UTC), 24 May (~19:00-20:00 UTC), 10 May (~11:15 UTC) and 9 May (~19:40 UTC) as far as I know. These
Addshore added a comment.
What's the status here? Is this still blocked on a decision? Can we try to move forward with 2? Ping @BBlack & @faidonTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99531EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Dzahn,
abian added a comment.
wikiba.se is a bit unstable. Today has been down for some hours (from ~1:00 UTC to ~5:30 UTC). Last issues were detected on 31 May (~0:00 UTC), 24 May (~19:00-20:00 UTC), 10 May (~11:15 UTC) and 9 May (~19:40 UTC) as far as I know. These issues has always been there and I
faidon added a comment.
For wikiba.se, another option (4, I guess!) is to just host it outside of the #Traffic infrastructure and with a separate setup using Let's Encrypt etc. However, broadly speaking, having the ability to route more domains than the dozen of canonical ones through our main
BBlack added a comment.
It's a pain any direction we slice this, and I'm not fond of adding new canonical domains outside the known set for individual low-traffic projects. We didn't add new domains for a variety of other public-facing efforts (e.g. wdqs, ORES, maps, etc).
We don't have clear
Addshore added a comment.
In T99531#3820633, @Lydia_Pintscher wrote:
Wikibase is supposed to be its own product. We are going to push for more use of it outside Wikimedia in 2018. It should have its own proper domain just like it does now if at all possible.
+1TASK
Lydia_Pintscher added a comment.
Wikibase is supposed to be its own product. We are going to push for more use of it outside Wikimedia in 2018. It should have its own proper domain just like it does now if at all possible.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99531EMAIL
Ladsgroup added a comment.
This is not my decision to make, our PM is not around, I'll ask her when she's backTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99531EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Dzahn, LadsgroupCc: Stashbot, gerritbot, Dzahn,
Dzahn added a comment.
@Ladsgroup Hi, i saw your IRC ping and continued working on this (see above). Though.. now we'll have to talk about the certificate situation (or actually renaming the site). The issue is that wikiba.se is not one of our canonical domain names and wouldn't be covered by our
gerritbot added a comment.
Change 389957 merged by Dzahn:
[operations/puppet@production] wikibase: include apache class vs declaring it
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/389957TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99531EMAIL
gerritbot added a comment.
Change 389957 had a related patch set uploaded (by Dzahn; owner: Dzahn):
[operations/puppet@production] wikibase: include apache class vs declaring it
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/389957TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99531EMAIL
gerritbot added a comment.
Change 389952 merged by Dzahn:
[operations/puppet@production] wikibase: include base::firewall vs declaring it
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/389952TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99531EMAIL
gerritbot added a comment.
Change 389952 had a related patch set uploaded (by Dzahn; owner: Dzahn):
[operations/puppet@production] wikibase: include base::firewall vs declaring it
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/389952TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99531EMAIL
gerritbot added a comment.
Change 389949 merged by Dzahn:
[operations/puppet@production] wikibase: another fix to Hiera parameter names
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/389949TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99531EMAIL
gerritbot added a comment.
Change 389949 had a related patch set uploaded (by Dzahn; owner: Dzahn):
[operations/puppet@production] wikibase: another fix to Hiera parameter names
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/389949TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99531EMAIL
gerritbot added a comment.
Change 389947 merged by Dzahn:
[operations/puppet@production] wikibase: move hiera parameters to correct location
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/389947TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99531EMAIL
gerritbot added a comment.
Change 389947 had a related patch set uploaded (by Dzahn; owner: Dzahn):
[operations/puppet@production] wikibase: move hiera parameters to correct location
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/389947TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99531EMAIL
gerritbot added a comment.
Change 389944 merged by Dzahn:
[operations/puppet@production] webserver_misc_static: add profile for wikiba.se
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/389944TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99531EMAIL
Ladsgroup added a comment.
In T99531#3692384, @Dzahn wrote:
You might hate me for this question but have you considered using an org domain instead of the "se"?
Yeah but it was decided against it.
Also, i wonder if we should have a dedicated VM or if it's not necessary. Do you have any stats
Dzahn added a comment.
You might hate me for this question but have you considered using an org domain instead of the "se"?
Also, i wonder if we should have a dedicated VM or if it's not necessary. Do you have any stats on the traffic that wikiba.se receives?TASK
Dzahn added a comment.
In T99531#3663637, @Lydia_Pintscher wrote:
Let's stick with ensure => latest.
Done
"wikidata" LDAP group already has owner access (I gave it to them), We should add all Ops too but I couldn't find the proper LDAP group.
In T99531#3663502, @Ladsgroup wrote:
Dzahn added a comment.
added self to project and projectadmin in wikidata-dev
created new instance "wikibase-stretch", replacing "wikibase" instance that was on jessie, let's use "stable" right away
started profile and merged https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/382355
added "Puppet prefix" "wikibase"
Stashbot added a comment.
Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-cloud) [2017-10-06T21:58:30Z] added myself to project and projectadmins to work on T99531TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99531EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Dzahn,
gerritbot added a comment.
Change 382355 merged by Dzahn:
[operations/puppet@production] start profile for wikiba.se web hosting
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/382355TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99531EMAIL
Addshore added a comment.
In T99531#3663637, @Lydia_Pintscher wrote:
Let's stick with ensure => latest. Having to find the person who can actually deploy a change has been the major pain point with the previous setup.
+1
In T99531#3663502, @Ladsgroup wrote:
"wikidata" LDAP group already has
Lydia_Pintscher added a comment.
In T99531#3663063, @Dzahn wrote:
decide whether in puppet it should be "ensure => latest" (means merging in Gerrit is enough to deploy and people above can do it without shell, they have to wait until next puppet run though) or "ensure => present" (means puppet
Ladsgroup added a comment.
wikibase.eqiad.wmflabs is ready for test (hasn't applied the puppet roles yet). Added the hiera var in https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hiera:Wikidata-devTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99531EMAIL
Ladsgroup added a comment.
In T99531#3663063, @Dzahn wrote:
Next we should figure out:
who should have Gerrit permissions for +2/merge on the content repo
give them the permissions above (which group, how)
"wikidata" LDAP group already has owner access (I gave it to them), We should add all
gerritbot added a comment.
Change 382277 merged by Ladsgroup:
[wikibase/wikiba.se-deploy@master] Start the repo
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/382277TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99531EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Dzahn,
Dzahn added a comment.
By the way i couldn't just merge Ladsgroup's change in the new content repo as i just have +1 rights there, but not +2.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99531EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: DzahnCc:
Dzahn added a comment.
Next we should figure out:
who should have Gerrit permissions for +2/merge on the content repo
give them the permissions above (which group, how)
decide whether in puppet it should be "ensure => latest" (means merging in Gerrit is enough to deploy and people above can do
Dzahn added a comment.
We have the repo, and i see your change Amir, thank you! Before i merge the content itself i started with puppet code to install Apache site and git pull the static files. I was thinking we test that role class first on a cloud VPS with something like wikibase.wmflabs.org or
gerritbot added a comment.
Change 382355 had a related patch set uploaded (by Dzahn; owner: Dzahn):
[operations/puppet@production] start profile for wikiba.se web hosting
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/382355TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99531EMAIL
gerritbot added a comment.
Change 382277 had a related patch set uploaded (by Ladsgroup; owner: Amir Sarabadani):
[wikibase/wikiba.se-deploy@master] Start the repo
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/382277TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99531EMAIL
Lydia_Pintscher added a comment.
Ah gotcha. Makes sense.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99531EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Dzahn, Lydia_PintscherCc: Dzahn, Lydia_Pintscher, mark, greg, PokestarFan, faidon, Ladsgroup,
Ladsgroup added a comment.
We moved the repo for the source code from github to gerrit (This is the mirror, list of patches), I think @Dzahn means we need to create a repo for static files generated from the source code because we can't do that directly in prod for various reasons. I'm planning to
Lydia_Pintscher added a comment.
That sounds great!
I thought @Ladsgroup had already requested the repository. I'll let him chime in.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99531EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Dzahn, Lydia_PintscherCc:
Dzahn added a comment.
Hey @Lydia_Pintscher Happy to work on this and talk to you maybe on IRC as well.
I would say one of the first steps is we request a new Gerrit repo and move the static content from the current Github repo (now that the security review is done).
Then i'll write a small
Lydia_Pintscher added a comment.
After discussion with Faidon at Wikimania we agreed:
hosting can move now
domain is registered with WMDE. A move requires work by Abraham, who is super busy. I'll keep bugging him about making it happen but we'll not block on it.
TASK
faidon added a comment.
Hi there! I saw @Ladsgroup's email to the ops list (thanks for bringing that to our attention!), so I'll respond to some of the questions he raised there -- sorry if it sounds a bit incoherent with regards to the context above :)
From an infrastructure point-of-view,
Ladsgroup added a comment.
Probably it should go to krypton. I'll ask Ops.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99531EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: LadsgroupCc: Ladsgroup, Ivanhercaz, Addshore, Jonas, JeroenDeDauw, thiemowmde, hoo,
JeroenDeDauw added a comment.
The maintenance cost of running this is close to 0. I don't see how depending on a third party, WMF, is going to improve things. Same for moving the Git repo. We have full control over it now, no need to coordinate anything with people outside of WMDE.
That said, I
Addshore added a comment.
In T99531#2728995, @hoo wrote:
In T99531#2726678, @Jonas wrote:
I don't think it is necessary to move the repo, but I think it would be nice to have a real machine not just FTP.
I was talking about moving this to the wikimedia misc cluster (as stated above). I think
hoo added a comment.
In T99531#2726678, @Jonas wrote:
I don't think it is necessary to move the repo, but I think it would be nice to have a real machine not just FTP.
I was talking about moving this to the wikimedia misc cluster (as stated above). I think we should avoid running our own
Jonas added a comment.
I don't think it is necessary to move the repo, but I think it would be nice to have a real machine not just FTP.
So I would like to setup a machine and then change the CNAME for wikiba.se to this machine.
On this machine we can then automatically pull the repo and create
hoo added a comment.
This implies moving the code to gerrit, doesn't it? That sounds good to me, just want to make sure we're on the same page here.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99531EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: hooCc:
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