[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T230315: Create a way to see and add references to structured data on Commons (MediaInfo) statements

SWakiyama triaged this task as "High" priority. SWakiyama updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T230315 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: SWakiyama Cc: BeatEstermann, Lydia_Pintscher, Addshore,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T230315: Create a way to see and add references to structured data on Commons (MediaInfo) statements

Lydia_Pintscher added a comment. In T230315#7307613 , @John_Cummings wrote: > Thanks very much @addshore and @Lydia_Pintscher, one thing I don't understand is who in practice could implement this? This is up to the team at the WMF

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T230315: Create a way to see and add references to structured data on Commons (MediaInfo) statements

John_Cummings added a comment. Thanks very much @addshore and @Lydia_Pintscher, one thing I don't understand is who in practice could implement this? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T230315 EMAIL PREFERENCES

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T230315: Create a way to see and add references to structured data on Commons (MediaInfo) statements

Addshore added a comment. F34619303: image.png This bit should probably say something else, but otherwise this latest mock looks good and aligns with the datamodel being used to store these references (same as on wikidata) In

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T230315: Create a way to see and add references to structured data on Commons (MediaInfo) statements

Lydia_Pintscher added a comment. In T230315#7303039 , @mwilliams wrote: >> Also, this is minor, but in Wikidata each claim is displayed with a numerical value showing the number of references (even if it is 0). Will this be done in

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T230315: Create a way to see and add references to structured data on Commons (MediaInfo) statements

John_Cummings added a comment. My assumption is there would be a great deal of benefit in harmonising with Wikidata as much as possible for documentation, tools, ease of use etc so if in doubt make the same as Wikidata. Also this may allow easier improvements to be carrier over from

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T230315: Create a way to see and add references to structured data on Commons (MediaInfo) statements

Dominicbm added a comment. In T230315#7303039 , @mwilliams wrote: > Thanks for the great feedback. @Dominicbm you are correct that this needs to be a collection of grouped claims and that my mockups didn't communicate that

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T230315: Create a way to see and add references to structured data on Commons (MediaInfo) statements

mwilliams added a comment. Thanks for the great feedback. @Dominicbm you are correct that this needs to be a collection of grouped claims and that my mockups didn't communicate. F34618178: reference.jpg Here is a quick mockup of how that might

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T230315: Create a way to see and add references to structured data on Commons (MediaInfo) statements

GFontenelle_WMF added a project: GLAM. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T230315 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: GFontenelle_WMF Cc: Addshore, mwilliams, ChristianFerrer, Susannaanas, Cparle, CBogen,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T230315: Create a way to see and add references to structured data on Commons (MediaInfo) statements

John_Cummings added a subscriber: Addshore. John_Cummings added a comment. In T230315#7302889 , @Dominicbm wrote: > In T230315#7302885 , @John_Cummings wrote: > >> Thanks very much

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T230315: Create a way to see and add references to structured data on Commons (MediaInfo) statements

Dominicbm added a comment. In T230315#7302885 , @John_Cummings wrote: > Thanks very much for explaining this, is what you would like basically the same way Wikidata does references? I've been trying to think of a use case that wouldn't

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T230315: Create a way to see and add references to structured data on Commons (MediaInfo) statements

John_Cummings added a comment. In T230315#7302718 , @Dominicbm wrote: > @mwilliams So, in terms of the interface, I think it's going to be a little more complicated than this mockup has captured so far. A reference does more than a

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T230315: Create a way to see and add references to structured data on Commons (MediaInfo) statements

Dominicbm added a comment. @mwilliams So, in terms of the interface, I think it's going to be a little more complicated than this mockup has captured so far. A reference does more than a qualifier does, so it's not just a matter of adding a new sub-claim with a property and value when a

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T230315: Create a way to see and add references to structured data on Commons (MediaInfo) statements

John_Cummings added a comment. Hi @mwilliams thanks so much for creating these mock ups, I feel having references on SDC is extremely important especially when working with partners. My inital reaction is they look great, my guess is that having the same structure for references and

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T230315: Create a way to see and add references to structured data on Commons (MediaInfo) statements

mwilliams added a comment. I wanted to share a first pass of how we might be able to approach this on Commons. These mockups are based on the idea of having both qualifier and reference statements (row three in @Fuzheado's "Approach for attribution" table

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T230315: Create a way to see and add references to structured data on Commons (MediaInfo) statements

CBogen added a project: Structured-Data-Backlog (Current Work). TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T230315 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: CBogen Cc: ChristianFerrer, Susannaanas, Cparle, CBogen, Alicia_Fagerving_WMSE,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T230315: Create a way to see and add references to structured data on Commons (MediaInfo) statements

John_Cummings added a comment. In T230315#7098309 , @Fuzheado wrote: > This conversation about how to do bot additions of depiction metadata, and attribute them appropriately in Wikidata vs Commons, might be useful here as it is what

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T230315: Create a way to see and add references to structured data on Commons (MediaInfo) statements

John_Cummings updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T230315 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: John_Cummings Cc: Susannaanas, Cparle, CBogen, Alicia_Fagerving_WMSE, FRomeo_WMF, Fuzheado,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T230315: Create a way to see and add references to structured data on Commons (MediaInfo) statements

Fuzheado added a comment. A longer summary of the issues I wrote up and posted on Commons: https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons_talk:Structured_data=561823906#Feedback_from_Andrew_Lih TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T230315 EMAIL PREFERENCES

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T230315: Create a way to see and add references to structured data on Commons (MediaInfo) statements

Fuzheado added a comment. This conversation about how to do bot additions of depiction metadata, and attribute them appropriately in Wikidata vs Commons, might be useful here as it is what spawned the recent interest in this topic.

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T230315: Create a way to see and add references to structured data on Commons (MediaInfo) statements

GFontenelle_WMF added a comment. Hi, everyone! Yes, this activity is not on the SD team roadmap for now, but after we talked to them about it and the importance this could have on GLAM-Wiki activities, they want to understand the Commons community's interest in it as well. I added a section

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T230315: Create a way to see and add references to structured data on Commons (MediaInfo) statements

Susannaanas added a comment. I am very interested in the topic but I am not very useful in putting the feature to action. I think SDC is superior to any other environment in the Internet in being able to record and display the provenance of statements about media items. To see where a

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T230315: Create a way to see and add references to structured data on Commons (MediaInfo) statements

John_Cummings added a comment. Its been confirmed by @GFontenelle_WMF that WMF do not have implementing references on SDC in their development roadmap so it would have to be done by others. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T230315 EMAIL PREFERENCES

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T230315: Create a way to see and add references to structured data on Commons (MediaInfo) statements

John_Cummings renamed this task from "Allow adding references to structured data on Commons (MediaInfo) statements " to "Create a way to see and add references to structured data on Commons (MediaInfo) statements ". John_Cummings updated the task description. TASK DETAIL