[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T338330: MUL - Use `mul` Labels and Aliases as placeholders for missing values in the desktop termbox [part 2 of 2: when editing]

noarave changed the status of subtask T340639: MUL - Use `mul` Aliases as placeholders when editing on desktop from Open to Stalled. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T338330 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: noarave Cc:

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T338330: MUL - Use `mul` Labels and Aliases as placeholders for missing values in the desktop termbox [part 2 of 2: when editing]

Manuel updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T338330 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Manuel Cc: Bugreporter, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Michael, ItamarWMDE, Sarai-WMDE, Manuel, Aklapper,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T338330: MUL - Use `mul` Labels and Aliases as placeholders for missing values in the desktop termbox [part 2 of 2: when editing]

Manuel changed the task status from "Stalled" to "Open". TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T338330 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Manuel Cc: Bugreporter, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Michael, ItamarWMDE, Sarai-WMDE, Manuel,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T338330: MUL - Use `mul` Labels and Aliases as placeholders for missing values in the desktop termbox [part 2 of 2: when editing]

Manuel changed the task status from "Open" to "Stalled". TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T338330 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Manuel Cc: Bugreporter, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Michael, ItamarWMDE, Sarai-WMDE, Manuel,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T338330: MUL - Use `mul` Labels and Aliases as placeholders for missing values in the desktop termbox [part 2 of 2: when editing]

Manuel changed the task status from "Stalled" to "Open". Manuel added a comment. I opened this task again: We decided to aim at generally representing the fallback chain in the placeholders (see separate task T340832 ). TASK DETAIL

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T338330: MUL - Use `mul` Labels and Aliases as placeholders for missing values in the desktop termbox [part 2 of 2: when editing]

Manuel changed the task status from "Open" to "Stalled". TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T338330 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Manuel Cc: Bugreporter, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Michael, ItamarWMDE, Sarai-WMDE, Manuel,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T338330: MUL - Use `mul` Labels and Aliases as placeholders for missing values in the desktop termbox [part 2 of 2: when editing]

Manuel added a comment. Hi @Bugreporter, thank you for the suggestion! Question for the Wikidata dev team: Would it be technically feasible to apply the fallback chain to create the placeholder for each language without Label/Alias/Description? TASK DETAIL

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T338330: MUL - Use `mul` Labels and Aliases as placeholders for missing values in the desktop termbox [part 2 of 2: when editing]

Bugreporter added a comment. See T307274: Display fallback labels and descriptions as placeholder in termbox , which proposes: 1. The label placeholder should be the nearest label fallback of the term (e.g. if an item have both German and mul

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T338330: MUL - Use `mul` Labels and Aliases as placeholders for missing values in the desktop termbox [part 2 of 2: when editing]

Manuel added a comment. Hi @Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, I just wanted to make sure that this is released only on a test system and not yet on Wikidata. So we will need no separate feature flag for this. Thank you for asking! TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T338330 EMAIL

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T338330: MUL - Use `mul` Labels and Aliases as placeholders for missing values in the desktop termbox [part 2 of 2: when editing]

Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE added a comment. Task breakdown notes: - This will probably touch some of the same files as related changes (see T338302 , T339103 ), i.e. somewhere in

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T338330: MUL - Use `mul` Labels and Aliases as placeholders for missing values in the desktop termbox [part 2 of 2: when editing]

Sarai-WMDE updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T338330 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Sarai-WMDE Cc: ItamarWMDE, Sarai-WMDE, Manuel, Aklapper, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T338330: MUL - Use `mul` Labels and Aliases as placeholders for missing values in the desktop termbox [part 2 of 2: when editing]

Manuel updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T338330 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Manuel Cc: ItamarWMDE, Sarai-WMDE, Manuel, Aklapper, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T338330: MUL - Use `mul` Labels and Aliases as placeholders for missing values in the desktop termbox [part 2 of 2: when editing]

Manuel attached a referenced file: F37114583: Screenshot 2023-06-23 at 15.35.18.png. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T338330 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Manuel Cc: ItamarWMDE, Sarai-WMDE, Manuel, Aklapper,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T338330: MUL - Use `mul` Labels and Aliases as placeholders for missing values in the desktop termbox [part 2 of 2: when editing]

Manuel attached a referenced file: F37114597: Screenshot 2023-06-23 at 15.37.03.png. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T338330 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Manuel Cc: ItamarWMDE, Sarai-WMDE, Manuel, Aklapper,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T338330: MUL - Use `mul` Labels and Aliases as placeholders for missing values in the desktop termbox [part 2 of 2: when editing]

Manuel attached a referenced file: F37114607: Screenshot 2023-06-23 at 15.37.55.png. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T338330 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Manuel Cc: ItamarWMDE, Sarai-WMDE, Manuel, Aklapper,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T338330: MUL - Use `mul` Labels and Aliases as placeholders for missing values in the desktop termbox [part 2 of 2: when editing]

Manuel updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T338330 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Manuel Cc: ItamarWMDE, Sarai-WMDE, Manuel, Aklapper, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T338330: MUL - Use `mul` Labels and Aliases as placeholders for missing values in the desktop termbox [part 2 of 2: when editing]

Sarai-WMDE updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T338330 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Sarai-WMDE Cc: ItamarWMDE, Sarai-WMDE, Manuel, Aklapper, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T338330: MUL - Use `mul` Labels and Aliases as placeholders for missing values in the desktop termbox [part 2 of 2: when editing]

Manuel updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T338330 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Manuel Cc: ItamarWMDE, Sarai-WMDE, Manuel, Aklapper, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T338330: MUL - Use `mul` Labels and Aliases as placeholders for missing values in the desktop termbox [part 2 of 2: when editing]

Manuel updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T338330 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Manuel Cc: ItamarWMDE, Sarai-WMDE, Manuel, Aklapper, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T338330: MUL - Use `mul` Labels and Aliases as placeholders for missing values in the desktop termbox [part 2 of 2: when editing]

Manuel updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T338330 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Manuel Cc: ItamarWMDE, Sarai-WMDE, Manuel, Aklapper, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T338330: MUL - Use `mul` Labels and Aliases as placeholders for missing values in the desktop termbox [part 2 of 2: when editing]

Manuel added a comment. As discussed, I closed the separate task T340133: MUL - Truncate placeholders for Aliases and instead added the specifications to this task. @Sarai-WMDE: Would it be appropriate to move the mockup from the other task?

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T338330: MUL - Use `mul` Labels and Aliases as placeholders for missing values in the desktop termbox [part 2 of 2: when editing]

Manuel merged a task: T340133: MUL - Truncate placeholders for Aliases . TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T338330 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Manuel Cc: ItamarWMDE, Sarai-WMDE, Manuel, Aklapper, Astuthiodit_1,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T338330: MUL - Use `mul` Labels and Aliases as placeholders for missing values in the desktop termbox [part 2 of 2: when editing]

Manuel updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T338330 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Manuel Cc: ItamarWMDE, Sarai-WMDE, Manuel, Aklapper, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T338330: MUL - Use `mul` Labels and Aliases as placeholders for missing values in the desktop termbox [part 2 of 2: when editing]

karapayneWMDE moved this task from Unified prioritized backlog to Sprint-∞ on the Wikidata Dev Team board. karapayneWMDE edited projects, added Wikidata Dev Team (Sprint-∞); removed Wikidata Dev Team. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T338330 WORKBOARD

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T338330: MUL - Use `mul` Labels and Aliases as placeholders for missing values in the desktop termbox [part 2 of 2: when editing]

Manuel added a comment. We are going with placeholders for Labels AND Aliases in the editing mode. I have clarified the task accordingly. Also, we have added limiting the placeholders for Labels and Aliases in the editing interface to take max 2 lines as a separate task (T340133

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T338330: MUL - Use `mul` Labels and Aliases as placeholders for missing values in the desktop termbox [part 2 of 2: when editing]

Manuel updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T338330 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Manuel Cc: ItamarWMDE, Sarai-WMDE, Manuel, Aklapper, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T338330: MUL - Use `mul` Labels and Aliases as placeholders for missing values in the desktop termbox [part 2 of 2: when editing]

Manuel updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T338330 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Manuel Cc: ItamarWMDE, Sarai-WMDE, Manuel, Aklapper, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T338330: MUL - Use `mul` Labels and Aliases as placeholders for missing values in the desktop termbox [part 2 of 2: when editing]

Manuel updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T338330 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Manuel Cc: ItamarWMDE, Sarai-WMDE, Manuel, Aklapper, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T338330: MUL - Use `mul` Labels and Aliases as placeholders for missing values in the desktop termbox [part 2 of 2: when editing]

Sarai-WMDE updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T338330 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Sarai-WMDE Cc: ItamarWMDE, Sarai-WMDE, Manuel, Aklapper, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T338330: MUL - Use `mul` Labels and Aliases as placeholders for missing values in the desktop termbox [part 2 of 2: when editing]

Manuel updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T338330 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Manuel Cc: ItamarWMDE, Sarai-WMDE, Manuel, Aklapper, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T338330: MUL - Use `mul` Labels and Aliases as placeholders for missing values in the desktop termbox [part 2 of 2: when editing]

Manuel added a comment. Some context for this task: Lydia, Sarai, and I are still discussing if we want to... A. Also show Placeholders for Aliases. In this case there would be an additional AC: Placeholders for Aliases can only take 2 lines + ellipsis (mockup will be updated soon)

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T338330: MUL - Use `mul` Labels and Aliases as placeholders for missing values in the desktop termbox [part 2 of 2: when editing]

Manuel updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T338330 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Manuel Cc: ItamarWMDE, Sarai-WMDE, Manuel, Aklapper, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T338330: MUL - Use `mul` Labels and Aliases as placeholders for missing values in the desktop termbox [part 2 of 2: when editing]

Manuel updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T338330 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Manuel Cc: ItamarWMDE, Sarai-WMDE, Manuel, Aklapper, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T338330: MUL - Use `mul` Labels and Aliases as placeholders for missing values in the desktop termbox [part 2 of 2: when editing]

Manuel updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T338330 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Manuel Cc: ItamarWMDE, Sarai-WMDE, Manuel, Aklapper, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T338330: MUL - Use `mul` Labels and Aliases as placeholders for missing values in the desktop termbox [part 2 of 2: when editing]

Manuel updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T338330 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Manuel Cc: ItamarWMDE, Sarai-WMDE, Manuel, Aklapper, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T338330: MUL - Use `mul` Labels and Aliases as placeholders for missing values in the desktop termbox [part 2 of 2: when editing]

Manuel updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T338330 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Manuel Cc: ItamarWMDE, Sarai-WMDE, Manuel, Aklapper, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T338330: MUL - Use `mul` Labels and Aliases as placeholders for missing values in the desktop termbox [part 2 of 2: when editing]

Manuel updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T338330 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Manuel Cc: ItamarWMDE, Sarai-WMDE, Manuel, Aklapper, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T338330: MUL - Use `mul` Labels and Aliases as placeholders for missing values in the desktop termbox [part 2 of 2: when editing]

Sarai-WMDE updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T338330 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Sarai-WMDE Cc: ItamarWMDE, Sarai-WMDE, Manuel, Aklapper, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T338330: MUL - Use `mul` Labels and Aliases as placeholders for missing values in the desktop termbox [part 2 of 2: when editing]

ItamarWMDE set the point value for this task to "8". TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T338330 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: ItamarWMDE Cc: ItamarWMDE, Sarai-WMDE, Manuel, Aklapper, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T338330: MUL - Use `mul` Labels and Aliases as placeholders for missing values in the desktop termbox [part 2 of 2: when editing]

ItamarWMDE added a comment. **Sprint Planning Notes** - If there is no mul language, the old placeholder should be kept - There is no intention to make the editing experience reactive, if during the same edit the mul label is removed, then the placeholder will only update post

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T338330: MUL - Use `mul` Labels and Aliases as placeholders for missing values in the desktop termbox [part 2 of 2: when editing]

Manuel added a comment. Hey @Sarai-WMDE, thank you for looking into this! I tried to clarify things based on your comment. What do you think? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T338330 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To:

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T338330: MUL - Use `mul` Labels and Aliases as placeholders for missing values in the desktop termbox [part 2 of 2: when editing]

Manuel updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T338330 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Manuel Cc: Sarai-WMDE, Manuel, Aklapper, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja, ItamarWMDE,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T338330: MUL - Use `mul` Labels and Aliases as placeholders for missing values in the desktop termbox [part 2 of 2: when editing]

Sarai-WMDE added a comment. A couple of clarifying questions: 1. What is it meant by "WHEN an empty Label/Alias is edited on desktop (or mobile), THEN the placeholder value disappears"? Does this refer to the fact that the MUL placeholder is replaced if a label is manually entered for a

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T338330: MUL - Use `mul` Labels and Aliases as placeholders for missing values in the desktop termbox [part 2 of 2: when editing]

Manuel added projects: Wikidata-Campsite, Wikidata, Wikidata Dev Team. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T338330 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Manuel Cc: Manuel, Aklapper, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot,