[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T225996: JSON results serializer in Wikidata Query Service generates an extra "datatype" field

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  Change 518401 had a related patch set uploaded (by Smalyshev; owner: 
Smalyshev):
  [wikidata/query/rdf@master] BUild with wmf.6
  
  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/518401

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T225996: JSON results serializer in Wikidata Query Service generates an extra "datatype" field

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  Change 518310 **merged** by jenkins-bot:
  [wikidata/query/blazegraph@master] Fix writing JSON result literals
  
  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/518310

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Triaged] T226328: Add test for SPARQLJSONWriter

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T226328: Add test for SPARQLJSONWriter

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TASK DESCRIPTION
  Looks like there's no tests for SPARQLJSONWriter - which is one of the 
reasons why T225996  was not 
noticed. We need to add some, since Blazegraph uses custom code not from Sesame 
(btw why? doesn't Sesame have JSON output?) to produce JSON SPARQL results.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T212117: Do API persmission checks before validation

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T88556: [Task] Browsertests for Special:SetAliases

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T88548: [Task] Browsertests for wikibase-property value input

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T88544: [Task] Browsertests for commons media value input

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T88796: [Task] Browsertests for badges functionality (on the client)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T88555: [Task] Browsertests for Special:SetDescription

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T88557: [Task] Browsertests for Special:SetSitelink

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T211866: LanguageAndLexicalCategoryWidget Vue Test and Prod Template are not in sync

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T211867: Lexeme jasmine tests should include upstream wikibase dependencies

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Triaged] T226218: snak hashes should not appear in AbuseFilter text for Wikibase

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Triaged] T226216: Statement GUIDS should not appear in AbuseFilter text for Wikibase

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T205062: Reorganizing Wikibase Quality extensions

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  All done.
  
  The final task can hang around until archiving is all done

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Blocker] T192565: Find constraint violations

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Status] T204031: Deploy regular running of wikidata constraint checks using the job queue

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  And marking as stalled, as this is obviously currently stalled.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T204852: phpunit: specify tablesUsed to ensure DB cleanup

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T214064: hamstar/Wikimate code is hitting wikidata API without passing maxlag

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T215622: Problems running docker-compose up

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  Marking as resolved as there as been no response.
  Feel free to open if this still doesn't work for you

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T205922: Impossible to establish site links

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  this was recently re documented.
  
  Please see T218282#5129954 

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Status] T205020: Deployment of more than one wikibase at a time should be easier

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T205094: Investigate restructure SQL directory

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T189333: Changing Kibana filters is ridiculously slow

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  Apparently using the logstash filters is too much for my travel laptop to 
handle.
  
  Could someone check to see which keys appear a ridiculous number of times in 
the filters right now and we can try to make some headway here!

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T207407: Remove legacy Database search integration of ArticlePlaceholder

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Retitled] T140879: WMFTimeoutException when loading some diffs on Wikidata

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T140879: Request timeout when loading diffs on Wikidata

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  Now we see a lovely.
  
[XQ6rOQpAMEsAAH3jMpBQ] 2019-06-22 22:28:05: Fatal exception of type 
"WMFTimeoutException"

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T195976: Docker Image CI status to be sent to IRC

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T68025: [Story] Monitor size of some Wikidata database tables

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T151789: Wikibase\\TermSqlIndex::deleteTerms: Deadlock found when trying to get lock; try restarting transaction

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  Very occasionally happening in June still:
  
addshore@mwlog1001:/srv/mw-log$ zgrep -c 'TermSqlIndex::deleteTerms' 
archive/exception.log-201906*
archive/exception.log-20190601.gz:0
archive/exception.log-20190602.gz:1
archive/exception.log-20190603.gz:0
archive/exception.log-20190604.gz:1
archive/exception.log-20190605.gz:0
archive/exception.log-20190606.gz:0
archive/exception.log-20190607.gz:0
archive/exception.log-20190608.gz:0
archive/exception.log-20190609.gz:0
archive/exception.log-20190610.gz:0
archive/exception.log-20190611.gz:0
archive/exception.log-20190612.gz:0
archive/exception.log-20190613.gz:0
archive/exception.log-20190614.gz:0
archive/exception.log-20190615.gz:0
archive/exception.log-20190616.gz:0
archive/exception.log-20190617.gz:1
archive/exception.log-20190618.gz:0
archive/exception.log-20190619.gz:0
archive/exception.log-20190620.gz:0
archive/exception.log-20190621.gz:0
archive/exception.log-20190622:0
  
  Very soon we won't be using the wb_terms table any more

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Status] T151789: Wikibase\\TermSqlIndex::deleteTerms: Deadlock found when trying to get lock; try restarting transaction

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T176875: Allow access to wdqs.svc.eqiad.wmnet on port 8888

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  It looks like this was the cause of the dashboard breaking again in T218710 
.
  
  It is a shame that we can not whitelist wdqs.svc.eqiad.wmnet, I guess we will 
just have to keep manually changing which server we point at?
  Unless anyone can think of another way?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T218710: Wikidata grafana dashboard for number of instances of various things is broken

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Triaged] T218710: Wikidata grafana dashboard for number of instances of various things is broken

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T218710: Wikidata grafana dashboard for number of instances of various things is broken

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T218710: Wikidata grafana dashboard for number of instances of various things is broken

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  Looks like this is because the host needs to be hard coded in the script.
  
  
https://github.com/wikimedia/analytics-wmde-scripts/blob/master/src/wikidata/sparql/instanceof.php#L74
  
  Because T176875: Allow access to wdqs.svc.eqiad.wmnet on port  
 can not be done.
  
  So the host needs to be updated!
  Perhaps to wdqs1006?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Triaged] T168104: Periodically delete old items from beta wikidatawiki

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Triaged] T168101: Wikidata on beta is getting too many edits

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Triaged] T173357: mediawiki::maintenance::wikidata should not run crons for testwikidatawiki when used on labs / a testwikidatawiki doesnt exist

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Status] T193733: Move dispatching of wikidata to a dedicated node

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  Going to mark this as stalled.
  
  Also we havn't had performance issues with dispatching for quite some time 
now after fixing something with the db tables that we spotted at the last DC 
switch over, so maybe these can stay where they are for now.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Blocker] T193349: Ongoing dispatch problems (April 2018)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Lowered Priority] T212282: Timeout in Special Page Constraints check for France (Q142)

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  Removing from the campsite.
  What we ideally want to do here is store constraint check data, and have the 
checks run post edit.
  This is all tracked in other tickets.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T221835: Add CC0 License overlay popup on termbox editing

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Triaged] T204488: Wikibase\MediaInfo\DataModel\MediaInfo must implement method `clear`

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T204488: Wikibase\MediaInfo\DataModel\MediaInfo must implement method `clear`

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  Poke to @Cparle 
  This task is probably easily fixable or closable :)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T205268: Many services in GenericServices are not actually that generic.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T114902: Remove numeric entity IDs from database schema

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T114902: Remove numeric entity IDs from database schema

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  wb_terms is being killed, the new tables for storing terms do use numeric 
ids, but each table is specific to items / properties, which are fine with 
having numeric ids. so we don't need to fix that area any further.
  
https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/blob/cd4957f2f0d5f54d565f065bcd134a1acbc33234/repo/sql/AddNormalizedTermsTablesDDL.sql

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T90691: [Bug] Sitelinks: Can add multiple pages to one site in frontend

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  Marking as resolved as I just tried this on test wikidata and could not 
reproduce.
  Probably fixed in the past 2 years.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Unblock] T70903: [Story] Implement new SiteLink UI

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Declined] T78693: [Story] Tool to set up entries in the sites table, to allow sitelinks to be created

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  This was recently raised again, and the process has been documented in 
T218282#5129954 .
  
  As for a tool, I think we can / will decline this now.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T162553: Remove SiteLinkUsageLookup if no longer needed

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  It is currently only used in AffectedPagesFinderTest.php (and tests for 
itself).
  
  The usage here could likely be replaced by something simpler / a mock / a 
different implementation.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T221835: Add CC0 License overlay popup on termbox editing

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  Change 517406 **merged** by jenkins-bot:
  [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase@master] Update Termbox
  
  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/517406

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T223068: Wikibase Query Service calls get flagged as tracker calls by some Firefox extensions

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  But packed production version does not have UrlShortener.js? I think it's the 
code on query.personaldata.io that is using unpacked version that is blocked. I 
am not sure we can (or should) do anything here - maybe just the code on 
query.personaldata.io should rename the file?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Declined] T169134: /srv/deployment/wdqs/wdqs-cache/revs cleanup for WDQS hosts

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  Given that it only keeps 5 versions which now take under 2G, I think we 
shouldn't worry about it too much for now.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T214532: Wikidata logo takes too long to appear on the Query UI on Firefox

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  This is due to the logo being replaced in JS.
  this was caused in T212210 
  
  One step forward would be T211474: Make query service logo and favicon have a 
placeholder image (not wikidata logo) 
.
  
  But the even better solution for 3rd parties would be to service this as a 
node service of some sort allowing injection of config rather than serving it 
as a static website.
  Briefly discussed in T192006#4940590 
 and some other related 
tickets.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T192920: Where in the Wikibase ecosystem should ShEx manifests sit?

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  Just wondering if this can be closed in the eyes of #wikiproject-shex 
 now that we have the 
sex mediawiki extension?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Triaged] T197660: Accept arbitrary lines to be appended to deployed LocalSettings.php

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T195942: checkx.sh can do odd things if files contain spaces

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Merged] T226152: Add WikibaseSchema extension to wikibase-docker bundle image

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T226152: Add WikibaseSchema extension to wikibase-docker bundle image

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T149410: For consistency MediaInfo serialization should use "claims" as key, rather than "statements"

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  This is partly a question for the SDOC team, and if SDOC will ever have 
references as part of their data model.
  Then there is also the question for wikidata and wikibase, which is, why are 
we using "claims" in the serialization?
  
  The answer to the latter is for legacy reasons, and to avoid breaking peoples 
tools, if we could rename our api modules to talk about statements instead of 
claims, and easily change the serialization without annoying people we would, 
and we will at some point.
  Why are we currently putting statements under a claims key? that makes no 
sense?
  
  And thus, if we want to make this change in wikibase / on wikidata with items 
and properties, then why change sdoc to use claims, when a little way down the 
road we will want to then change it back to statements to be consistent with 
wikidata and wikibase once again?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T219366: Consider using CombinedEntitySearchHelper with EntitySearchElastic and EntityIdSearchHelper for wikidata.org

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  I believe so!

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T149410: For consistency MediaInfo serialization should use "claims" as key, rather than "statements"

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  In T149410#5275912 , 
@Addshore wrote:
  
  > > Drastically? We're talking Commons here. Before I ran a bot only 50.000 
files even had claims. Nothing has references and qualifiers are only 
introduced this week. Everything is still tiny compared to Wikidata
  >
  > I'm talking about changing this from "claims" to "statements" on wikidata.
  >  That would be the right thing to do, as they are statements, not claims.
  
  
  No no no, that's not what this task is about. The scope of this task is only 
mediainfo on Commons and undoing the mistake of introducing statements instead 
of claims. Please focus on the issue at hand.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T149410: For consistency MediaInfo serialization should use "claims" as key, rather than "statements"

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  > Drastically? We're talking Commons here. Before I ran a bot only 50.000 
files even had claims. Nothing has references and qualifiers are only 
introduced this week. Everything is still tiny compared to Wikidata
  
  I'm talking about changing this from "claims" to "statements" on wikidata.
  That would be the right thing to do, as they are statements, not claims.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T149410: For consistency MediaInfo serialization should use "claims" as key, rather than "statements"

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  In T149410#5275900 , 
@Addshore wrote:
  
  > In T149410#5275599 , 
@Multichill wrote:
  >
  > > Can't we do a smart trick with showing it twice (claims and statements) 
in the front and storing it only once in the back? A big bang is much more 
complicated and riskier.
  >
  >
  > We could do, but this would drastically increase the sizes of responses.
  
  
  Drastically? We're talking Commons here. Before I ran a bot only 50.000 files 
even had claims. Nothing has references and qualifiers are only introduced this 
week. Everything is still tiny compared to Wikidata
  
  > We could use a method similar to some mediawiki core api versions and 
introduce a new temporary param, for example statementsnotclaims=1.
  >  When 1 send statements, when not set send claims, then we can slowly 
monitor adoption of the new format and send out warnings with the old format, 
trying to chase down any user agents that still use the old one before actually 
fully switching over?
  
  Commons! Not, Wikidata. What adoption? I think we currently have:
  
  - The stuff the SDOC wrote (front end, uploadwizard, etc.). That's easy to 
track and fix
  - Some stuff I wrote in which I don't have claims/statements yet
  - Some stuff Magnus wrote and he already updated his code
  - Anything else? I doubt it.
  
  So why bother to make this more complicated than needed? Or am I missing 
something here?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T149410: For consistency MediaInfo serialization should use "claims" as key, rather than "statements"

[Addshore]

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  In T149410#5275599 , 
@Multichill wrote:
  
  > Can't we do a smart trick with showing it twice (claims and statements) in 
the front and storing it only once in the back? A big bang is much more 
complicated and riskier.
  
  
  We could do, but this would drastically increase the sizes of responses.
  We could use a method similar to some mediawiki core api versions and 
introduce a new temporary param, for example statementsnotclaims=1.
  When 1 send statements, when not set send claims, then we can slowly monitor 
adoption of the new format and send out warnings with the old format, trying to 
chase down any user agents that still use the old one before actually fully 
switching over?
  We could also just introduce a parameter for "serializationVersion" which 
could basically do the same thing.
  This would all be easier if we had a nice versioned API already or versioned 
serialization :)
  
  T92961: [Story] Versioning in JSON output 

  
  We also have T221737: REST API Infrastructure in MediaWiki 
 to look forward to, it might make 
sense to hold off on a change like this until we make a "big move" to a new API.
  
  > A big problem with this change that it was not announced anywhere I did 
see, and I'm pretty much subscribed to everything public. Give us poor 
volunteer devs some warning, at least
  
  Hmm, you mean the fact that statements on mediainfo entities are serialized 
as "statements" not "claims".
  I guess it is not seen as a breaking change as media info entities are new, 
and they can do what they want with their serialization.
  
  > Also, it's inconsistent. Wikidata items and properties have claims, 
mediainfo items have statements. Is this going to change on Wikidata as well? 
Wikibase in general?
  
  Everything should probably change to "statements" in the long run, as having 
"claims" being talked about in the serialization and only the serialization is 
confusing. and per the definition of our data model it also doesn't make sense.
  
  > Other things have changes in the Commons/mediainfo implementation. datatype 
is missing, for one (tracked by some other issue here). Will it come back? Will 
it stay missing but only for mediainfo?
  
  Which ticket number is this one?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T149410: For consistency MediaInfo serialization should use "claims" as key, rather than "statements"

[Lydia_Pintscher]

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  Jep absolutely.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T149410: For consistency MediaInfo serialization should use "claims" as key, rather than "statements"

[Magnus]

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  FWIW, I have already changed my code to work with either `claims` or 
`statements`. Quick thoughts:
  
  - IMHO this change is too significant to do it "just because it's a nicer 
word". No one really cares what it's called, as long as you call it the same 
thing every time.
  - A big problem with this change that it was not announced anywhere I did 
see, and I'm pretty much subscribed to everything public. Give us poor 
volunteer devs some warning, at least
  - Also, it's inconsistent. Wikidata items and properties have `claims`, 
mediainfo items have `statements`. Is this going to change on Wikidata as well? 
Wikibase in general?
  - Other things have changes in the Commons/mediainfo implementation. 
`datatype` is missing, for one (tracked by some other issue here). Will it come 
back? Will it stay missing but only for `mediainfo`?
  
  The problem is not that things are different, they are different needlessly 
(AFAICT), and unannounced.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T149410: For consistency MediaInfo serialization should use "claims" as key, rather than "statements"

[Lydia_Pintscher]

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  In T149410#5275156 , 
@Addshore wrote:
  
  > > Magnus ran into this and this is very confusing and inconsistent. The 
longer we wait with fixing this, the more effort it will cost.
  >
  > Totally agree there, we have already put this off for years.
  >  It's a pretty breaking change though.
  >  But with the correct announcement and time that would all be fine, and 
even if people miss it, fixing their code should be trivial.
  >
  > Thoughts @Lydia_Pintscher ?
  
  
  From my side absolutely. I'm not sure why this is different in the first 
place.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T226238: Identical items can't be merged due to duplicate articles in ceb wikipedia

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  This is not a bug. Everything is working as expected. The problem was 
entirely on the user side in their interpretation of the error message, which 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T149410: For consistency MediaInfo serialization should use "claims" as key, rather than "statements"

[Multichill]

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  Can't we do a smart trick with showing it twice (claims and statements) in 
the front and storing it only once in the back? A big bang is much more 
complicated and riskier. You would have a timeline like:
  
  - Switch api read and write functions to expose both claims and statements
  - Clients can start switching to "claims"
  - Switch the backend to read it as both statements and claims, but store it 
as "claims"
  - Do a null edit run to get rid of the "statements" and replace it with 
"claims"
  - Switch backend code to only use "claims"
  - Check if no code is using statements anymore in the api
  - Switch front end to only use "claims"

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