[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T266224: Don't express termbox 'dependency' on entityLoaded via ResourceLoader

2020-10-25 Thread WMDE-leszek
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T57755: Allow time values more precise than day on Wikidata

2020-10-25 Thread Jc3s5h
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  In T57755#6576646 , 
@Multichill wrote:
  
  > In T57755#6576583 , 
@Jc3s5h wrote:
  >
  >> 
  >>
  >> There is no indication about what time zone will be assumed for the 
creation or first publication date. You can't expect users to provide correct 
dates and times if you don't tell them at the time of upload that whatever they 
enter will be assumed to have the time zone that was in force at the time and 
place where the photo was taken.
  >
  > That's how basic human interaction works? If I say that we'll meet next 
Saturday at 13:00, the other person knows it's in local time (just switched 
from CEST to CET). Works the same way on Commons. We don't ask users for time 
zones and we don't record that data.
  
  This is not basic in-person interaction. This is interaction among people all 
over the globe by means of computers.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T57755: Allow time values more precise than day on Wikidata

2020-10-25 Thread Jc3s5h
Jc3s5h added a comment.


  
  
  In T57755#6576706 , 
@Sannita wrote:
  
  > In T57755#6576583 , 
@Jc3s5h wrote:
  >
  >> I don't understand how a time could be without a timezone and at the same 
time have a default timezone.
  >
  > UTC can be used for this.
  
  Situation 1: time can be accompanied by a time zone, which could be UTC. In 
this case, the time zone is specified.
  
  Situation 2: the time zone of a time in a computer is not recorded. In this 
situation, the time must be judged from context.
  
  Situation 1 and situation 2 are mutually exclusive.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T266423: Language code for Carolinian to use in Wikidata

2020-10-25 Thread Reedy
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T57755: Allow time values more precise than day on Wikidata

2020-10-25 Thread Sannita
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  In T57755#6576583 , @Jc3s5h 
wrote:
  
  > I don't understand how a time could be without a timezone and at the same 
time have a default timezone.
  
  UTC can be used for this.
  
  > I also don't understand how local time with hours, minutes, and seconds can 
be the current practice on Commons and at the same time require a software fix 
to allow entry of hours, minutes, and seconds on Commons.
  
  AFAIK, it should be server time. We can just set it to its timezone.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T265240: (MS 1) intro text for expectation setting

2020-10-25 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T57755: Allow time values more precise than day on Wikidata

2020-10-25 Thread Multichill
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  Forked the Commons part in T266407 
 and left this one for the Wikidata 
part.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T266407: Increase maximum precision for time datatype from day to second on Commons

2020-10-25 Thread Multichill
Multichill created this task.
Multichill added projects: Commons, Structured-Data-Backlog, 
MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, StructuredDataOnCommons.
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TASK DESCRIPTION
  Forked from T57755  . On Commons 
the maximum precision allowed to enter is currently 11 (day). Please increase 
this to 14 (second). The imageinfo extension should probably override the time 
data type to always set the timezone to null instead of 0 to make it clear that 
not all times are UTC.
  
  This mirrors the current practice on Commons, see for example 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Northstar_California_Prosser_2.jpg 
where the date field contains "2017-07-03 13:28:12".

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T57755: Allow time values more precise than day on Wikidata

2020-10-25 Thread Multichill
Multichill renamed this task from "Allow time values more precise than day" to 
"Allow time values more precise than day on Wikidata".

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T57755: Allow time values more precise than day

2020-10-25 Thread Multichill
Multichill added a comment.


  In T57755#6576583 , @Jc3s5h 
wrote:
  
  > 
  >
  > There is no indication about what time zone will be assumed for the 
creation or first publication date. You can't expect users to provide correct 
dates and times if you don't tell them at the time of upload that whatever they 
enter will be assumed to have the time zone that was in force at the time and 
place where the photo was taken.
  
  That's how basic human interaction works? If I say that we'll meet next 
Saturday at 13:00, the other person knows it's in local time (just switched 
from CEST to CET). Works the same way on Commons. We don't ask users for time 
zones and we don't record that data.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T57755: Allow time values more precise than day

2020-10-25 Thread Jc3s5h
Jc3s5h added a comment.


  > ! In T57755#6576484 , 
@Multichill wrote:
  > without timezones and default it to the local time? That is also current 
practice on Commons, see for example 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Northstar_California_Prosser_2.jpg 
where the time is "3 July 2017, 13:28:12". If someone is really interested in 
the timezone, they can derive it from the coordinates.
  
  I don't understand how a time could be without a timezone and at the same 
time have a default timezone.
  
  I also don't understand how local time with hours, minutes, and seconds can 
be the current practice on Commons and at the same time require a software fix 
to allow entry of hours, minutes, and seconds on Commons.
  
  Finally, I see a lack of notice and documentation for file contributors. In 
the file upload dialog in Commons, the following instructions are provided to 
the uploader:
  
  > **Date work was created or first published**
  > Choose the date this work was created or first published.
  
  There is no indication about what time zone will be assumed for the creation 
or first publication date. You can't expect users to provide correct dates and 
times if you don't tell them at the time of upload that whatever they enter 
will be assumed to have the time zone that was in force at the time and place 
where the photo was taken.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T265290: Review the federation input process for WDQS

2020-10-25 Thread Zache
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  I created a discussion on the wikidata project chat for defining the 
community side of the process.
  
  - 
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Updating_SPARQL_federation_input_review_process

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T57755: Allow time values more precise than day

2020-10-25 Thread Multichill
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  In T57755#4661653 , 
@Addshore wrote:
  
  > So, this ticket was created specifically for allowing entering time values 
with second precision on wikidata.org and it should probably (i guess) remain 
just for that.
  > Having second precision time values on commons does not mean wikidata has 
to have them.
  >
  > As said in T57755#4639411 
 the underlying value object 
being used already supports second precisions.
  > Just wikidata has them turned off.
  > If commons uses the same validators as we use on wikidata.org then second 
precisions will not work.
  > If other validators are used then commons can have second precision values.
  
  How about just implementing this just for Commons, without timezones and 
default it to the local time? That is also current practice on Commons, see for 
example 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Northstar_California_Prosser_2.jpg 
where the time is "3 July 2017, 13:28:12". If someone is really interested in 
the timezone, they can derive it from the coordinates.
  
  Should we fork the Commons part into another task and keep this one for 
Wikidata?

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