[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T315350: Known, Beta cluster Error: 502, Next Hop Connection Failed

2022-08-16 Thread Zabe
Zabe closed subtask T315379: (Beta cluster) Running logspam-watch on 
deployment-mwlog01 gives repeated `Use of uninitialized value $host` errors as 
Resolved.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T315350: Known, Beta cluster Error: 502, Next Hop Connection Failed

2022-08-16 Thread TheresNoTime
TheresNoTime added a subtask: T315395: Rebase & merge or re-cherry-pick 668701 
on deployment-puppetmaster04.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T315350: Known, Beta cluster Error: 502, Next Hop Connection Failed

2022-08-16 Thread TheresNoTime
TheresNoTime added a subtask: T315394: Remove two cherry-picked reverts from 
deployment-puppetmaster04.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T315350: Known, Beta cluster Error: 502, Next Hop Connection Failed

2022-08-16 Thread ori
ori added a comment.


  Follow-up items to get the Puppet repo on deployment-puppetmaster04 in good 
shape:
  
  - The two cherry-picked reverts should be removed 
(https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/operations/puppet/+/823638, 
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/operations/puppet/+/823639) and the changes 
they revert should be updated to not be incompatible with the Beta Cluster.
  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/operations/puppet/+/668701 needs to be 
rebased and merged or re-cherry-picked on deployment-puppetmaster04. To get it 
to apply I had to manually resolve a conflict, and I'm not sure I did it 
correctly. So the actual diff on deployment-puppetmaster04 is not consistent 
with what's on Gerrit.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T315350: Known, Beta cluster Error: 502, Next Hop Connection Failed

2022-08-16 Thread TheresNoTime
TheresNoTime lowered the priority of this task from "Unbreak Now!" to "Medium".
TheresNoTime updated the task description.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T315350: Known, Beta cluster Error: 502, Next Hop Connection Failed

2022-08-16 Thread TheresNoTime
TheresNoTime added a subscriber: thcipriani.
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  [2022-08-17T00:49:52Z, #wikimedia-releng, @thcipriani]
  
 what I've managed to find: it seems like mediawiki is working 
locally on the MediaWiki hosts. But I get timeouts on the -cache-text server. 
Traffic server is complaining about varnish-frontend, but varnish isn't 
reporting errors afaict.
 welp. Restarting trafficserver seems to have fixed it.
 I note there are no errors in journalctl -u trafficserver and 
the systemd unit was "running"
  
  https://meta.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Main_Page loads correctly

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T315350: Known, Beta cluster Error: 502, Next Hop Connection Failed

2022-08-16 Thread gerritbot
gerritbot added a project: Patch-For-Review.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T315350: Known, Beta cluster Error: 502, Next Hop Connection Failed

2022-08-16 Thread gerritbot
gerritbot added a comment.


  Change 823766 had a related patch set uploaded (by Ori; author: Ori):
  
  [operations/puppet@production] beta cluster: don't instantiate ::esitest
  
  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/823766

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T315350: Known, Beta cluster Error: 502, Next Hop Connection Failed

2022-08-16 Thread TheresNoTime
TheresNoTime added a comment.


  [2022-08-17T00:43:52Z, #wikimedia-releng, @ori]
OK I hacked in locally `if $::realm != 'labs' {}` around the ::esitest 
in profile/manifests/cache/varnish/frontend/text.pp
I'll turn it into a patch shortly
puppet ran successfully on deployment-cache-text06

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T315350: Known, Beta cluster Error: 502, Next Hop Connection Failed

2022-08-16 Thread TheresNoTime
TheresNoTime closed subtask T315355: (Beta cluster) 
Wikimedia\RequestTimeout\RequestTimeoutException: The maximum execution time of 
200 seconds was exceeded as Invalid.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T315350: Known, Beta cluster Error: 502, Next Hop Connection Failed

2022-08-16 Thread TheresNoTime
TheresNoTime closed subtask T315354: (Beta Cluster) Unexpected connection error 
communicating with Elasticsearch. Curl code: {curl_code} as Invalid.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T315350: Known, Beta cluster Error: 502, Next Hop Connection Failed

2022-08-16 Thread TheresNoTime
TheresNoTime added a subtask: T315379: (Beta cluster) Running logspam-watch on 
deployment-mwlog01 gives repeated `Use of uninitialized value $host` errors.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T315350: Known, Beta cluster Error: 502, Next Hop Connection Failed

2022-08-16 Thread TheresNoTime
TheresNoTime added subscribers: Zabe, ori.
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  [2022-08-16T23:25:49Z, #wikimedia-releng, @Zabe]
I try to understand why apache is not willing to start
AH00526: Syntax error on line 1 of 
/etc/apache2/conf-enabled/50-configmaster-port.conf
Cannot define multiple Listeners on the same IP:port
  
  
  
  In T315379#8159822 , @ori 
wrote:
  
  > The Puppet repo on 
`deployment-puppetmaster04:/var/lib/git/operations/puppet` is in MERGING state. 
There's an unresolved conflict in modules/profile/manifests/etcd/v3.pp. The 
conflict is between the upstream change  I04aa7729e 
 and a local 
patch, Iecfc26a94 
, which has been 
cherry-picked locally for the past year but never merged upstream.
  >
  > `git status` and `git diff` here: P32410 

  
  
  
  
  
  [2022-08-17T00:00:57Z, #wikimedia-releng, @Zabe]
some progress: 
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/operations/puppet/+/823762/ made puppet on 
puppetmaster04 run again

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T315350: Known, Beta cluster Error: 502, Next Hop Connection Failed

2022-08-16 Thread Jdforrester-WMF
Jdforrester-WMF removed a parent task: T312253: 502 errors on beta cluster.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T304087: Short descriptions on iOS have misleading capitalization prompt

2022-08-16 Thread LGoto
LGoto edited projects, added ios-app-v7.1; removed ios-app-v7.0.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T213571: Ignore babel box the user has set to knowing at level 0 on Commons (and so have different behaviour to Wikidata)

2022-08-16 Thread Aklapper
Aklapper closed this task as "Declined".
Aklapper added a comment.


  Declining as it's been 3.5 years since a request for consensus. Feel free to 
reopen once provided. Thanks.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T211678: Create graph for External ID reference snaks

2022-08-16 Thread Aklapper
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  The previous comments don't explain who or what (task?) exactly this task is 
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or a third party) and can currently not be acted on" 
). Hence 
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forgotten) for years for unclear reasons.
  
  //(Smallprint, as general orientation for task management:
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  If work on this task is blocked by another task, then that other task should 
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  If this task is stalled on an upstream project, then the #upstream 
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  If this task requires info from the task reporter, then there should be 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T222891: Inform users if there was no response from the server

2022-08-16 Thread Aklapper
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  The previous comments don't explain who or what (task?) exactly this task is 
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  If this task is out of scope and nobody should ever work on this, or nobody 
else managed to reproduce the situation described here, then it should have the 
"Declined" status.
  If the task is valid but should not appear on some team's workboard, then the 
team project tag should be removed while the task has another active project 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T219886: Unhappy Editing Paths

2022-08-16 Thread Aklapper
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response from the server from Stalled to Open.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T315350: Known, Beta cluster Error: 502, Next Hop Connection Failed

2022-08-16 Thread RhinosF1
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T315350: Known, Beta cluster Error: 502, Next Hop Connection Failed

2022-08-16 Thread Stashbot
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  Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-releng) [2022-08-16T20:51:48Z]  beta: 
is down see wikitech-l and https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T315350

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T315350: Known, Beta cluster Error: 502, Next Hop Connection Failed

2022-08-16 Thread TheresNoTime
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T315350: Known, Beta cluster Error: 502, Next Hop Connection Failed

2022-08-16 Thread Maintenance_bot
Maintenance_bot added a project: Wikidata.
Restricted Application added a project: wdwb-tech.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T315350: Known, Beta cluster Error: 502, Next Hop Connection Failed

2022-08-16 Thread bking
bking added a comment.


  Brian (Search platform SRE) here.
  
  Apologies for the confusion: to the best of my knowledge, there is no WDQS in 
beta cluster.
  
  I did take a look at the Elasticsearch beta cluster instances and I found 
that the cluster status is healthy and the SSL certificates are valid.
  
  Please let us know if we can do anything else to help.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T315350: Known, Beta cluster Error: 502, Next Hop Connection Failed

2022-08-16 Thread RhinosF1
RhinosF1 added projects: Wikidata-Query-Service, Discovery-Search.
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  Hi Search Team, can you help with the WDQS errors?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T306918: Prohibit duplication of mul labels in other languages

2022-08-16 Thread mrephabricator
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  It's entirely possible that duplicate labels are not a real problem - there 
has been heated debate about this same thing on OpenStreetMap for years at this 
point, but the consensus has always been to keep the "duplicates" as they 
really contain information that data consumers can't do with out. Many of the 
detractors allege that Wikidata would be able to store this information should 
it be removed, but if that becomes no longer true, it seems like that could 
damage Wikidata's credibility as a useful tool for interlingual labels, as so 
far it has been discussed as a way to store more of that kind of information 
rather than less of it.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T306918: Prohibit duplication of mul labels in other languages

2022-08-16 Thread mrephabricator
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  This should not be done. ک in Urdu is ڪ in Sindhi, but Sindhi still has ک but 
uses it for a different sound. It is exceptional in this regard, so it would 
not be surprising for the "mul" label to be read as using ک to represent what 
it does more commonly. This would mean that a label in Sindhi could be 
identical to an Urdu one while representing a word that is meant to be 
pronounced distinctly from the Urdu one. This likely extends to most scripts.
  
  "W" and "v" are homophonous sounds to many users of Latin scripts. For 
example with Latin script, if we look at this item: 
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q113450202
  I have labeled this in English as "Waddi Punjabi Lughat" as this is how many 
South Asian English speakers and users of Latin script would be inclined to 
spell it. However, Vaddi Punjabi Lughat is the label I have used for Canadian, 
American, and British English because to speakers of these English dialects, 
the sound they would associate with "V" would be a closer match to the correct 
pronunciation. If I were to duplicate the label across dialects, this would be 
indicating the useful information that the "W" would be understood as a typical 
spelling in all of them, meaning that it would be reasonable for an American to 
pronounce "Waddi" like "water" even if this is not the "original" 
pronunciation. That makes duplicating the label an indicator of useful 
information which would not be clear otherwise.
  
  I think it is quite likely that people will use homoglyph letters as 
substitutes to get around this, or even unintentionally. For example, ڻ and ٹ 
are different letters which are associated with different sounds. However, they 
look identical in middle and initial positions. So if we have ڻڻڻ and ٹٹٹ, you 
would have a hard time telling what the first two letters are. There are lots 
of things we can fudge like this in various scripts and have it go unnoticed. 
Hawaii in the native language Hawaiian, which uses the Latin script, is spelled 
Hawaiʻi. If we write this as Hawai'i, using an apostrophe rather than the 
ʻokina character used for Polynesian languages in Latin script, we have now 
"duplicated" the string without using the same characters. Many would do this 
entirely unintentionally not knowing ʻokina is a different character, and then 
if someone wanted to correct the character in the termbox it is in, it would 
give an error.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T312097: [EPIC] Enable language code mul on Wikidata

2022-08-16 Thread mrephabricator
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  I know "mul-arab" has been brought up in previous threads and not included in 
this then, but I would like to strongly recommend reconsidering and that at 
least 3 "mul" termbox labels be made to minimize confusion. These would be:
  
  - mul for standalone numbers and glyphs
  - mul for left to right
  - mul for right to left
  
  The exact names or codes do not matter that much I think so much as they are 
usable for these purposes. The problem with single "mul" is that left to right 
and right to left scripts when rendered together in a line or using the same 
code often result in messy rendering in browsers, with unpredictable positions 
of text or things like letters appearing out of order.
  
  By standalone numbers and glyphs, I say this to account for the fact that 
there are no actual Arabic "Arabic numerals" - the digits used in most writing 
systems regardless of overall directions are variations of the same Indic 
numerals which are always read left to right. So 1, ⠁, ١, ੧, and so on may be 
rendered the same way for items with standalone labels like this in any writing 
system.
  
  For some right-to-left examples, let's say we have left-to-right "Pakistan," 
we may write this as:
  
  پاکستان
  
  in:
  
  - Brahui*
  - Persian
  - Uyghur*
  - Saraiki*
  - Pashto
  - Punjabi
  - Luri**
  - Kashimiri
  - Sorani/Central Kurdish
  - Balochi**
  - Azerbaijani
  - Urdu
  
  Here * indicates a language which currently shares both Arabic-based and 
Latin-based scripts in one box as they have not benefited from separate codes, 
and ** indicates languages which seem to have boxes only for a specific dialect 
that likely do not indicate anything dialect specific in the absence of a main 
label for the language or other dialect codes. The languages that have a 
different label here are Arabic, Malay, Sindhi, and Mazanderani. There are 
several missing languages from the termbox labels which could use the same 
label when/if added. پ is the letter that prevents Arabic from sharing a label 
here - for strings which only use characters shared among a greater set of 
languages, the list would be longer. This could be done for basically any place 
name or person's name in South Asia for example, and the additional advantage 
of having a right-to-left label like this is that there would be at least 
something to display that is legible within various languages which Wikidata 
does not support yet. Until there is a code for Khowar, we would be able to put 
the name for a town where most people speak Khowar in the mul right-to-left box 
in the mean time.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T278366: Multiple scripts & interlanguage links issue

2022-08-16 Thread Winston_Sung
Winston_Sung added a comment.


  So they are actually:
  
gom-deva
gom-knda
gom-latn
  
  
  
ks-arab
ks-deva
  
  , right?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T314574: Let us play with PubMed to enrich Wikidata with medical information

2022-08-16 Thread Csisc
Csisc closed this task as "Resolved".

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T314574: Let us play with PubMed to enrich Wikidata with medical information

2022-08-16 Thread Csisc
Csisc added a comment.


  > Please find the slides at https://w.wiki/5ZpE.
  
  Question:
  
  I do have issues with it being put right into Wikidata. For example, Covid-19 
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q84263196 has Drug-or-therapy-used-for-treatment 
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2176 with ivermectin () 
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q415178 administered orally (!!). 
There are 10 references, that no one will chase down. But people (or in 
particular "AI bots") will pick this up and think that it is true. That is so 
dangerous! There needs to be a link to 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivermectin_during_the_COVID-19_pandemic and not 
to any lists of clinical trials - the RESULTS of the clinical trials are needed 
and not the fact that there was a clinical trial for this. This is why I feel 
that you need to keep the medical information on a separate Wikibase 
implementation until you are clear on how you will be dealing with all this 
issues that will arise. WiseWoman (talk) 15:46, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
  
  WiseWoman: We will certainly consider your comments. You are certainly right. 
--Csisc (talk) 13:59, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
  WiseWoman: We currently see whether we can develop an interface that allows 
medical specialists to curate our data when retrieved from PubMed Database. 
--Csisc (talk) 14:02, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
  That would be a step in the right direction, but people argue so much and do 
not agree on what is correct in medicine! Why are you not concentrating on 
Cochrane reports first? That would make so much more sense! I've had students 
working on PubMed, even identifying named entities is quite challenging, we 
found multiple cases with 5+ different ways that a name of the same person was 
written, as the journals all have different rules as to whether or not first 
names are written out or abbreviated, etc. Journals are quite sloppy about 
putting metadata into PubMed and they seldom correct errors. It's a great 
resource for a human medical researcher or practicioner, who can determine if 
an article makes sense or not. But again, people don't agree. --WiseWoman 
(talk) 20:30, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
  WiseWoman: Sure, it will be useful to use Cochrane Reviews to enrich 
Wikidata. We are already working to use Cochrane Reviews to add new statements 
to Open Research Knowledge Graph. This work can be scaled to Wikidata. --Csisc 
(talk) 18:47, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
  WiseWoman: If you have other interesting proposals, we will be honoured to 
implement them for our project. --Csisc (talk) 18:49, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T314574: Let us play with PubMed to enrich Wikidata with medical information

2022-08-16 Thread Csisc
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  @Aklapper, I have presented the session as shown in the Program. This session 
has been attended by 30 participants from the Wikimedia Community and eight 
people at the Wikimania in-person event held in Monastir, Tunisia. This was a 
live session of the Hackathon and as well for the in-person event in Monastir, 
Tunisia. We received interesting points that will be interesting to develop the 
work and we will certainly consider them for developing our research work.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T132839: [RfC] Property suggester suggests human properties for non-human items

2022-08-16 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
Lydia_Pintscher changed the task status from "Open" to "Stalled".
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  I assume this will be fixed with the new suggester being finalized in T285098 
. Setting to stalled for now to 
check back on this once we have the new suggester in place.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T150178: Wikidata 2017 Q2 goals

2022-08-16 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T169708: Wikidata 2017 Q3 goals

2022-08-16 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
Lydia_Pintscher changed the status of subtask T132839: [RfC] Property suggester 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T132839: [RfC] Property suggester suggests human properties for non-human items

2022-08-16 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
Lydia_Pintscher closed subtask T156401: Improved property recommender for 
Wikidata as Invalid.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T156401: Improved property recommender for Wikidata

2022-08-16 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
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  A new system is being worked on and the remaining work for that is tracked in 
T285098 . I am going to close this 
one because it doesn't seem useful to spend more time on this here.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T156401: Improved property recommender for Wikidata

2022-08-16 Thread Aklapper
Aklapper changed the task status from "Stalled" to "Open".
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  @addshore: The previous comments don't explain who or what (task?) exactly 
this task is stalled on ("If a report is waiting for further input (e.g. from 
its reporter or a third party) and can currently not be acted on" 
). Hence 
resetting task status, as tasks should not be stalled (and then potentially 
forgotten) for years for unclear reasons.
  
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else managed to reproduce the situation described here, then it should have the 
"Declined" status.
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team project tag should be removed while the task has another active project 
tag.)//

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T132839: [RfC] Property suggester suggests human properties for non-human items

2022-08-16 Thread Aklapper
Aklapper changed the status of subtask T156401: Improved property recommender 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T312652: Apply design improvements to Special:NewLexemeAlpha page

2022-08-16 Thread noarave
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  @guergana.tzatchkova to test this it's best to make sure your default 
font-size is set to 16px (in Firefox it's under Settings -> General, in the 
Fonts section).

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T314574: Let us play with PubMed to enrich Wikidata with medical information

2022-08-16 Thread Aklapper
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  @Csisc: Thanks for participating in the Hackathon! We hope you had a great 
time.
  
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`resolved` via the Add Action... > Change Status dropdown.
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task.
- If there are specific follow-up tasks from this session / event: Please 
create dedicated tasks and add another active project tag to those tasks, so 
others can find those tasks (as likely nobody in the future will look at the 
Hackathon workboard when trying to find something they are interested in).
  - In this session / event did not take place: Please set the task status to 
`declined`.
  
  Thank you,
  your Hackathon venue housekeeping service

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T314574: Let us play with PubMed to enrich Wikidata with medical information

2022-08-16 Thread Aklapper
Aklapper assigned this task to Csisc.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T309872: Archive wikibase-vuejs-components library repository

2022-08-16 Thread Stashbot
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  Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2022-08-16T06:58:14Z] 
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  Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2022-08-16T06:58:03Z] 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T315181: [Bug] Wikidata reference text field 0px width on mobile browser in desktop mode with Vector 2022 skin

2022-08-16 Thread Aklapper
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