[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T101086: Standardize invalid language codes for Babel extension
gerritbot added a comment. Change 330041 merged by jenkins-bot: [mediawiki/extensions/Babel@master] Map MediaWiki's fake language codes to real ones https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/330041TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101086EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: gerritbotCc: Quest_for_Truth, A2093064, gerritbot, CXuesong, zhuyifei1999, Nemo_bis, Nikerabbit, Whatamidoing-WMF, Glaisher, MarcoAurelio, StudiesWorld, Ricordisamoa, Liuxinyu970226, Nikki, Aklapper, Bugreporter, GoranSMilovanovic, TheDragonFire, Adik2382, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, Lewizho99, Maathavan, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, SPQRobin, Arrbee, KartikMistry, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T101086: Standardize invalid language codes for Babel extension
gerritbot added a comment. Change 330041 had a related patch set uploaded (by TTO): Map MediaWiki's fake language codes to real ones https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/330041TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101086EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: gerritbotCc: gerritbot, CXuesong, zhuyifei1999, Nemo_bis, Nikerabbit, Whatamidoing-WMF, Glaisher, MarcoAurelio, StudiesWorld, Ricordisamoa, Liuxinyu970226, Nikki, Aklapper, Bugreporter, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, SPQRobin, Dereckson, Arrbee, KartikMistry, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T101086: Standardize invalid language codes for Babel extension
Nikki added a comment.
My understanding of the problem is that when someone uses {{#babel:zh-classical}}, the extension puts the user into "Category:User zh-classical" instead of into "Category:User lzh" even though they mean the same thing. Instead, it should understand that zh-classical is a legacy code and convert it to lzh, to avoid duplicate categories.
All the users in https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Category:User_be-x-old, https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Category:User_zh-classical and https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Category:User_zh-yue are there because they used the Babel extension with an old code. Those categories duplicate https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Category:User_be-tarask, https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Category:User_lzh and https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Category:User_yue. All six pages were created by the Babel AutoCreate account (before it got blocked).TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101086EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: NikkiCc: Nemo_bis, Nikerabbit, Whatamidoing-WMF, Glaisher, MarcoAurelio, StudiesWorld, Ricordisamoa, Liuxinyu970226, Nikki, Aklapper, Bugreporter, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, SPQRobin, Dereckson, Arrbee, KartikMistry, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T101086: Standardize invalid language codes for Babel extension
Whatamidoing-WMF added a comment. In T101086#2226452, @Liuxinyu970226 wrote: Mnn, correct. For such "faux English" labels, the right way is to submit codes and names to CLDR, then let users on CLDR to localize them. Part of "the right way" to handle unknown codes is "leave it blank if you don't know what language it is, instead of filling in 'English', which is almost always going to be wrong." Perhaps we should "standardize" unknown and invalid codes on "produce an error message". The current "standard" seems to be "call them all English".TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101086EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Whatamidoing-WMFCc: Nemo_bis, Nikerabbit, Whatamidoing-WMF, Glaisher, MarcoAurelio, StudiesWorld, Ricordisamoa, Liuxinyu970226, Nikki, Aklapper, Bugreporter, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, SPQRobin, Dereckson, Arrbee, KartikMistry, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T101086: Standardize invalid language codes for Babel extension
Nemo_bis added a comment.
So, let's go back to the main topic of this task
Which is? Please update the task description so that it's understandable. The description currently links two Wikidata items, which however seem not to be the focus of the bug report.
The report might be about the output of {{#babel}} when giving a code which is equivalent, but not identical, to a known language code. Correct? However, we still lack examples of categories populated by the Babel extension in a "wrong" way.
For instance, of the categories linked by the items in the task description, most are empty and only one was created by Babel. "{{#babel:lzh}} {{#babel:zh-classical}}" in test gives categories "User lzh User lzh-N User zh-classical User zh-classical-N".TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101086EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Nemo_bisCc: Nemo_bis, Nikerabbit, Whatamidoing-WMF, Glaisher, MarcoAurelio, StudiesWorld, Ricordisamoa, Liuxinyu970226, Nikki, Aklapper, Bugreporter, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, SPQRobin, Dereckson, Arrbee, KartikMistry, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T101086: Standardize invalid language codes for Babel extension
Glaisher added a comment. @Whatamidoing-WMF See https://translatewiki.net/wiki/FAQ#Language_names TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101086 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Glaisher Cc: Nikerabbit, Whatamidoing-WMF, Glaisher, MarcoAurelio, StudiesWorld, Ricordisamoa, Liuxinyu970226, Nikki, Aklapper, Bugreporter, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, SPQRobin, Dereckson, Arrbee, KartikMistry, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T101086: Standardize invalid language codes for Babel extension
Liuxinyu970226 added a comment. In https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101086#2226073, @Whatamidoing-WMF wrote: > I'm not sure if this is the right place to add this, but https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Purodha has a list of languages that claim to be English. For example, the last is "wep-1", and the text says that the user has a basic knowledge of English, rather than a basic knowledge of the Westphalien language. In https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101086#2226447, @Nikki wrote: > That sounds like a different issue, wep is already a valid language code. Mnn, correct. For such "faux English" labels, the right way is to submit codes and names to CLDR, then let users on CLDR to localize them. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101086 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Liuxinyu970226 Cc: Whatamidoing-WMF, Glaisher, MarcoAurelio, StudiesWorld, Ricordisamoa, Liuxinyu970226, Nikki, Aklapper, Bugreporter, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, SPQRobin, Dereckson, Arrbee, KartikMistry, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T101086: Standardize invalid language codes for Babel extension
Nikki added a comment. That sounds like a different issue, wep is already a valid language code. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101086 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Nikki Cc: Whatamidoing-WMF, Glaisher, MarcoAurelio, StudiesWorld, Ricordisamoa, Liuxinyu970226, Nikki, Aklapper, Bugreporter, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, SPQRobin, Dereckson, Arrbee, KartikMistry, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T101086: Standardize invalid language codes for Babel extension
Whatamidoing-WMF added a comment. I'm not sure if this is the right place to add this, but https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Purodha has a list of languages that claim to be English. For example, the last is "wep-1", and the text says that the user has a basic knowledge of English, rather than a basic knowledge of the Westphalien language. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101086 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Whatamidoing-WMF Cc: Whatamidoing-WMF, Glaisher, MarcoAurelio, StudiesWorld, Ricordisamoa, Liuxinyu970226, Nikki, Aklapper, Bugreporter, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, SPQRobin, Dereckson, Arrbee, KartikMistry, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T101086: Standardize invalid language codes for Babel extension
Liuxinyu970226 added a comment. BTW, can anyone please run a script to check all the incorrect babel templates and categories (i.e. Template:User als/Category:User als, Template:User zh-yue/Category:User zh-yue, etc. I'm afraid Wikidata missed some), and list them to a paste? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101086 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Liuxinyu970226 Cc: Ricordisamoa, Liuxinyu970226, Nikki, Aklapper, Bugreporter, Wikidata-bugs, aude, SPQRobin, Dereckson, Arrbee, KartikMistry ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
