[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T97566: Add an instruction field for Wikidata items
kaldari added a comment. @Smalyshev: According to the query in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103836, the majority of usage instructions are in English (about 280); French has 35; German has 24, and the numbers decline from there. Thus even if we only created a non-localizable field for instructions, it would be adequate for most items (and a big improvement over the way we are doing it now). @Lydia_Pintscher: Where would you suggest that we go from here? The community discussion just went in circles with no movement towards consensus. We now know how many items have usage instructions (a few hundred), so that's no longer a blocker. FWIW, I think there are thousands of items that would benefit from usage instructions, but don't currently have them because there is nowhere to put them (other than the description field). Also, judging by the previous community discussions, it seems that the Wikidata community has no interest in the usefulness of the description field outside of Wikidata itself, thus they have no incentive to try to find a solution. I think WMDE is going to have to lead the way here. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97566 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: StudiesWorld, Smalyshev, Ricordisamoa, Wwes, jeremyb, thiemowmde, MGChecker, aude, JKatzWMF, Thryduulf, Moushira, Yair_rand, Tbayer, Filceolaire, Jdforrester-WMF, Pigsonthewing, Tfinc, Deskana, Mhurd, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, kaldari, Wikidata-bugs, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T97566: Add an instruction field for Wikidata items
kaldari added a comment. This is still blocking https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101719, although I imagine the team may eventually move ahead with that feature regardless. Is there any hope for a resolution to this bug? It seems the delimiter stop-gap solution has stalled. Personally, I agree with the others that the best solution is to somehow store the usage instructions separately. I understand that you don't want to clutter the interface with an extra field that is only going to be used on a small number of items, so why not make it only editable via the API? The few items that need usage instructions are almost never going to need those instructions edited. They just need to be set once and stored. Then if an item does have usage instructions, those instructions should be displayed below the description on both the item page and in pop-up hints (and as separate data in API results). 3rd party Wikibase users could then just completely ignore the concept of usage instructions if they want to (or there could be a feature flag for it). What do you think? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97566 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: jeremyb, thiemowmde, MGChecker, aude, JKatzWMF, Thryduulf, Moushira, Yair_rand, Tbayer, Filceolaire, Jdforrester-WMF, Pigsonthewing, Tfinc, Deskana, Mhurd, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, kaldari, Wikidata-bugs, Malyacko, P.Copp ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T97566: Add an instruction field for Wikidata items
Jdlrobson added a blocked task: T101719: Push wikidata descriptions to stable.. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97566 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Jdlrobson Cc: MGChecker, aude, JKatzWMF, Thryduulf, Moushira, Yair_rand, Tbayer, Filceolaire, Jdforrester-WMF, Pigsonthewing, Tfinc, Deskana, Mhurd, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, kaldari, Wikidata-bugs ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T97566: Add an instruction field for Wikidata items
Jdlrobson removed a blocked task: T100709: Move 'Wikidata description at article start' to beta. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97566 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Jdlrobson Cc: MGChecker, aude, JKatzWMF, Thryduulf, Moushira, Yair_rand, Tbayer, Filceolaire, Jdforrester-WMF, Pigsonthewing, Tfinc, Deskana, Mhurd, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, kaldari, Wikidata-bugs ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T97566: Add an instruction field for Wikidata items
kaldari added a blocked task: T100709: Move 'Wikidata description at article start' to beta. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97566 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: Tbayer, Filceolaire, Jdforrester-WMF, Pigsonthewing, Tfinc, Deskana, Mhurd, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, kaldari, Wikidata-bugs, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
