[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T143486: In some cases, moving or deleting pages on a client wiki does not result in sitelink updates / removal on Wikidata

matej_suchanek renamed this task from "In some cases, moving or deleting pages on a client wiki does not result in sitelink updates / removal on Wikidata." to "In some cases, moving or deleting pages on a client wiki does not result in sitelink updates / removal on Wikidata". TASK DETAIL

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T143486: In some cases, moving or deleting pages on a client wiki does not result in sitelink updates / removal on Wikidata.

hoo added a comment. In T143486#9679948 , @Lydia_Pintscher wrote: > In T143486#9679789 , @hoo wrote: > >> As far as I remember we deliberately chose not to auto-create users back

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T143486: In some cases, moving or deleting pages on a client wiki does not result in sitelink updates / removal on Wikidata.

Lydia_Pintscher added a comment. In T143486#9679789 , @hoo wrote: > As far as I remember we deliberately chose not to auto-create users back then initially implementing this. I don't think this would be very hard to add this (in a nice

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T143486: In some cases, moving or deleting pages on a client wiki does not result in sitelink updates / removal on Wikidata.

hoo added a comment. In T143486#9679761 , @matej_suchanek wrote: > Has the option to automatically create the user account prior to the update if it doesn't exist on Wikidata been actually considered? Is it impossible, or is it just

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T143486: In some cases, moving or deleting pages on a client wiki does not result in sitelink updates / removal on Wikidata.

M2k_dewiki added a comment. In T143486#9679761 , @matej_suchanek wrote: > Has the option to automatically create the user account prior to the update if it doesn't exist on Wikidata been actually considered? Is it impossible, or is it

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T143486: In some cases, moving or deleting pages on a client wiki does not result in sitelink updates / removal on Wikidata.

matej_suchanek added a comment. Has the option to automatically create the user account prior to the update if it doesn't exist on Wikidata been actually considered? Is it impossible, or is it just unclear whether we want to do it? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T143486

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T143486: In some cases, moving or deleting pages on a client wiki does not result in sitelink updates / removal on Wikidata.

Lydia_Pintscher added a project: Wikidata Sitelinks. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T143486 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Lydia_Pintscher Cc: M2k_dewiki, Oudedutchman, Manuel, MisterSynergy, Mike_Peel, Bencemac, ARR8,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T143486: In some cases, moving or deleting pages on a client wiki does not result in sitelink updates / removal on Wikidata.

hoo added a comment. In T143486#9674958 , @M2k_dewiki wrote: > Also see > > -

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T143486: In some cases, moving or deleting pages on a client wiki does not result in sitelink updates / removal on Wikidata.

M2k_dewiki added a comment. Also see - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Noticeboard#Speedily-approved_page-moving_bot?? - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ABots%2FNoticeboard=1216561469=1216352889 TASK DETAIL

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T143486: In some cases, moving or deleting pages on a client wiki does not result in sitelink updates / removal on Wikidata.

M2k_dewiki added a comment. Also see - https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#(5000)_unconnected_television_season_articles_in_the_english_language_wikipedia_after_pages_have_been_moved -

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T143486: In some cases, moving or deleting pages on a client wiki does not result in sitelink updates / removal on Wikidata.

MisterSynergy added a comment. Another status update: I have now migrated this job from PAWS to Toolforge (`msynbot` tool account) . Due to memory restrictions on Toolforge, I had to rewrite much of the code unfortunately. The memory-intensive operation is no longer done with

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T143486: In some cases, moving or deleting pages on a client wiki does not result in sitelink updates / removal on Wikidata.

MisterSynergy added a comment. Status update: the backlog of sitelinks to inexistent pages is cleared, except for: - Sitelinks to wikis that have been closed (their status is undetermined anyways; number of cases is unknown) - Sitelinks to Special pages, which appear as inexistent in

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T143486: In some cases, moving or deleting pages on a client wiki does not result in sitelink updates / removal on Wikidata.

Manuel added a comment. Thank you for the update and for the great work, @MisterSynergy! \o/ TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T143486 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Manuel Cc: Manuel, MisterSynergy, Mike_Peel,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T143486: In some cases, moving or deleting pages on a client wiki does not result in sitelink updates / removal on Wikidata.

MisterSynergy added a comment. Status update: In the past days, I have removed deleted sitelinks for the "easy" cases where the reason is relatively obivous. This has reduced the number of open cases from ~60k to ~6k (i.e. 90% reduction). Findings: - Around 6k cases resulted from "move

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T143486: In some cases, moving or deleting pages on a client wiki does not result in sitelink updates / removal on Wikidata.

Manuel added a comment. Yes, you are right @MisterSynergy! I am glad about your repair efforts and will stand down for now. Please let me know if we can contribute something from our side or if you have new insights from your investigations. Thank you, and best of luck with this! Also,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T143486: In some cases, moving or deleting pages on a client wiki does not result in sitelink updates / removal on Wikidata.

Mike_Peel added a comment. Just to note that Pi bot was removing some of these links in 2018, focused on tgwiki, but I haven't been running that script recently. Documentation at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Bot/Pi_bot_9 and code at

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T143486: In some cases, moving or deleting pages on a client wiki does not result in sitelink updates / removal on Wikidata.

MisterSynergy added a comment. I don't think "User:Hoo bot" has much influence here as this bot has not edited Wikidata since 2016-10. While many cases are a couple of years old, they are not *that* old in fact. As much as I am aware, nobody has taken care of this for a long time now (but I

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T143486: In some cases, moving or deleting pages on a client wiki does not result in sitelink updates / removal on Wikidata.

Manuel added a comment. Thank you so much @MisterSynergy, you are amazing! \o/ Your analysis helps a lot! I wonder, if "User:Hoo Bot" might skew the analysis or not. @hoo, could you please give a little detail of what cases the bot is fixing and whether that changes MisterSynergy's

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T143486: In some cases, moving or deleting pages on a client wiki does not result in sitelink updates / removal on Wikidata.

MisterSynergy added a comment. @Manuel: I have looked into this again. As of now, I have this list of potential reasons for sitelink update failures: 1. Sitelink configuration-related reasons 1. A page on the client is "moved without a redirect" to another namespace that is

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T143486: In some cases, moving or deleting pages on a client wiki does not result in sitelink updates / removal on Wikidata.

MisterSynergy added a comment. @Manuel: - I got a bot task approved that allows me to tidy these sitelinks up regularly (i.e. remove from the item if the page is inexistent on the client wiki). This itself can be considered a "dirty" solution to the problem, but clearly not the best

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T143486: In some cases, moving or deleting pages on a client wiki does not result in sitelink updates / removal on Wikidata.

Manuel added a comment. Thank you so much for your research @MisterSynergy, this helped a lot! In case, by any chance, you still have your list of cases (and analysis), then please let me know. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T143486 EMAIL PREFERENCES

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T143486: In some cases, moving or deleting pages on a client wiki does not result in sitelink updates / removal on Wikidata.

Manuel renamed this task from "[feature request] remove sitelinks / update sitelinks on Wikidata when pages are deleted/moved on client wikis (all users)" to "In some cases, moving or deleting pages on a client wiki does not result in sitelink updates / removal on Wikidata.". Manuel updated