[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T254082: Gadget and external tools to copy genealogical information

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  Geni.com has a SmartCopy tool that copies data from other sources. Many 
websites listed above are US-based where database right is not honored.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T254082: Gadget and external tools to copy genealogical information

[Samwilson]

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  I'm not a lawyer, but if we make a tool that enables en masse importing, 
wouldn't that get into the realm of database rights? I know that in the 
OpenStreetMap world, it's not enough to say that place names are not 
copyrightable, they still can't be imported into OSM.
  
  There's also usually terms of use that specify how data may be used. For 
example, the FamilySearch terms of use 
 say: "You may not post content from 
this site on another website or on a computer network without our permission."
  
  But I'd be very happy to be proved wrong! I'm also wondering about tools that 
go in the other direction, and link Wikidata ''to'' other sites (e.g. adding 
{{wikidata}} templates to WikiTree profiles). That would have a benefit to 
Wikidata of making items more discoverable, and at the same time we'd add 
external site IDs to items.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T254082: Gadget and external tools to copy genealogical information

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  How will a name be copyrightable? family relationships and dates are also 
simple facts.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T254082: Gadget and external tools to copy genealogical information

[Samwilson]

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  I think the main issue with this sort of tool is likely to be licensing 
restrictions. I think that, of the above, WeRelate is the only one with an open 
license (and it's not a very active project these days). I guess there might be 
an argument to be made about importing just the basic information, but I'm not 
sure where the line can be drawn.

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