[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T286659: [SPIKE] Explore adding interwiki links link back to sidebar

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  Resolving this.  Implementation will continue in T287206: Add interwiki links 
back to the sidebar 

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  The first option has this downside that for connected pages to wikidata items 
(majority of Wikipedia articles) you will see two links to the exactly same 
thing (the wikidata item):
  F34552431: image.png 
  
  The second one seems more sensible for now (maybe later we can have some 
design research on it and find a better home).

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  Thanks! I am not sure I have a strong opinion either way. I would love to 
hear what @Addshore and @Ladsgroup think for example.

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  We talked about the several options here and decided we didn't want to modify 
the existing ULS. The assumption on the long term is the new ULS will have this 
feature and show on pages without other languages. We've thus settled on doing 
one of two things:
  
  (1) Have 2 links in the sidebar for legacy and modern Vector
  
  In the Wikibase extension we'll add an additional link to the sidebar for 
Vector "Add links to other languages" which would behave identically to the 
existing "Add links" link.
  In Vector we'll add a style to make sure only one of those is shown at a time.
  This may require some changes to the wire up JavaScript to make sure both 
buttons are functionally showing the dialog.
  
  For this option we'd need some help from WMDE as nobody in the team has a 
working Wikibase install and we noted that this would be a big time suck for us 
to get up and running and familiar with the project.
  
  On the longer term we imagine this link might be in the sidebar as well as 
the ULS dialog so this would prepare for that eventuality.
  
  (2) Add JavaScript to modern Vector which puts the link in the sidebar (hack)
  
  We (reading web) are happy to take on some technical debt and using a 
JavaScript hack move the existing link to the toolbox menu. We'd change our 
logic to hide the language button via CSS. This hack would exist until the 
language team has done their bit and WMDE will not need to be involved. The 
downside of this approach is that the link will not show for any users not 
running JavaScript but we determined this to be a small number of impacted user.
  
  @Lydia_Pintscher which of these options is preferable to you? Do WMDE want to 
be involved in the solution or not?

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[Lydia_Pintscher]

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  Hey :)
  
  Yes sorry. This dialog is what I was talking about. We currently show it if 
the article is not connected to an Item at all or if the article is connected 
to an Item where the only sitelink is the one for the article you are on. Here 
is a random article that is connected to an Item but only has this article in 
the sitelinks: 
https://ceb.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Coulee_(walog_sa_Tinipong_Bansa,_Montana,_Judith_Basin_County,_lat_46,91,_long_-109,78)
  
  I hope this helps. Please let me know if you need more.

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  @alexhollender I think I found the answer: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Carter_(convict)?useskinversion=1

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  In T286659#7212830 , 
@Lydia_Pintscher wrote:
  
  > I don't think the Wikidata Item link in the sidebar is sufficient. The 
existing functionality is there exactly to avoid sending you to Wikidata where 
possible and instead to the operation locally on the Wikipedia.
  
  @Lydia_Pintscher thanks for this context. I was not aware that it's possible 
to do this on Wikipedia, I thought it always took you to Wikidata. Would it be 
possible for you to provide a screenshot and/or a link for how to see that 
functionality?

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  In T286659#7212738 , 
@alexhollender wrote:
  
  > @ovasileva I wonder if this would make sense within the Page tools section, 
below the `Wikidata item` link?
  > F34551079: image.png 
  
  +1. I think this could work.

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  I don't think the Wikidata Item link in the sidebar is sufficient. The 
existing functionality is there exactly to avoid sending you to Wikidata where 
possible and instead to the operation locally on the Wikipedia.

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  @ovasileva I wonder if this would make sense within the Page tools section, 
below the `Wikidata item` link?
  F34551079: image.png 

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TASK DESCRIPTION
  Background
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  We would like to explore adding the link to add interwiki links to Wikidata 
back into the sidebar as a temporary solution until the release of the new 
version of the ULS.  See T282026: Unable to quickly add interwiki links via 
Wikidata’s "Add link" interface  for 
more context.
  
  Acceptance Criteria
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  [ ] Explore options for adding interwiki links to bottom of sidebar
  - potential copy: "Add links to other languages"

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