[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T329979: Prevent users from adding statements that would result in constraint violations

[Lydia_Pintscher]

Lydia_Pintscher closed this task as "Declined".
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  I am declining this in favor of the tickets Bugreporter mentioned. Those are 
more in line with how Wikidata functions and are also more practically 
achievable without an overhaul of a few core paradigms of how Wikidata is 
edited. Take for example someone adding a new statement for an official 
homepage. The constraints require a qualifier for the language of the site to 
be added. This is usually done in a second edit and that's perfectly fine. Same 
with required references for date of birth and such.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T329979: Prevent users from adding statements that would result in constraint violations

[Lectrician1]

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  > Has this been discussed with the community at all?
  
  @Peachey88 No since such a feature doesn't exist in the first place.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T329979: Prevent users from adding statements that would result in constraint violations

[Bugreporter]

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  T168626: Check constraints before saving statements 
 and T190529: After saving a 
statement, tag the change for review if it violates some constraints 
 may be more practicable.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T329979: Prevent users from adding statements that would result in constraint violations

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T329979: Prevent users from adding statements that would result in constraint violations

[Peachey88]

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  Has this been discussed with the community at all?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T329979: Prevent users from adding statements that would result in constraint violations

[Lectrician1]

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TASK DESCRIPTION
  **Feature summary** (what you would like to be able to do and where):
  
  Users should not be able to add statements that result in constraint 
violations and be offered an explanation why.
  
  **Use case(s)** (list the steps that you performed to discover that problem, 
and describe the actual underlying problem which you want to solve. Do not 
describe only a solution):
  
  Newcomers or self-promoters come to Wikidata and make items that violate 5+ 
constraints and do not take any action fixing them, leaving it others to do so. 
It's very likely that these high-constraint-violation items are being created 
at a rate much faster than they are being fixed. This is resulting in a worse 
average data quality across Wikidata.
  
  Here's an example of a terrible item:
  
  - https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q116811692=1835970604
  
  Because of this fact and that fixing them is a very annoying task for 
experienced editor to do, I'm proposing that a system be developed that 
accomplishes this proposal and is implemented on Wikidata.
  
  **Benefits** (why should this be implemented?):
  
  Better average data quality.
  Action to adjust constraints when needed becomes more-frequent.

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