[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T184000: Magic word on English WP to override display of Wikidata short description
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T184000: Magic word on English WP to override display of Wikidata short description
TheDJ added a comment.
@Tgr That ticket would basically be T193857: Short description magic word stores last instance on page
@Pbsouthwood
a) The side effect is taking something from a revision and using it for the page (different level of the datamodel).
b) This has been the behaviour of all magic words for 15 years. For instance this is also the behaviour of {{DISPLAYTITLE}}, {{DEFAULTSORT}} etc. consistency is important, even if it might be inconvenient for a particular use.
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T184000: Magic word on English WP to override display of Wikidata short description
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T184000: Magic word on English WP to override display of Wikidata short description
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T184000: Magic word on English WP to override display of Wikidata short description
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T184000: Magic word on English WP to override display of Wikidata short description
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T184000: Magic word on English WP to override display of Wikidata short description
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T184000: Magic word on English WP to override display of Wikidata short description
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T184000: Magic word on English WP to override display of Wikidata short description
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T184000: Magic word on English WP to override display of Wikidata short description
Lydia_Pintscher added a comment. @Tgr Are you going to tackle T173144 as well so the remaining descriptions are still being tracked and changes show up in the watchlist?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T184000EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Tgr, Lydia_PintscherCc: Stashbot, WMDE-leszek, Elitre, gerritbot, TheDJ, Fjalapeno, Tbayer, MZMcBride, Alsee, bearND, Mike_Peel, Tgr, JKatzWMF, daniel, Bmueller, Addshore, Lydia_Pintscher, Samwilson, Aklapper, DannyH, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Ahmed123, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Baloch007, Darkminds3113, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, JJMC89, Maathavan, B20180, Nakon, MusikAnimal, Niharika, Fhocutt, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Ricordisamoa, -jem-, Mbch331, Krenair___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T184000: Magic word on English WP to override display of Wikidata short description
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T184000: Magic word on English WP to override display of Wikidata short description
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T184000: Magic word on English WP to override display of Wikidata short description
Tgr added a comment. In T184000#3987414, @Addshore wrote: So, again overriding the current wikidata description here is a breaking change. We should not do that. If we want to add something new, such as an article description, lets add it under a new key called "article-description" instead of redefining something that already exists and has a clear definition. Is it actually breaking anything, though? Clients want a description, they get one. (A better one, if we do this whole override thing on account of considering the local description superior.) In what possible scenario would that cause a problem? The only one I can think of is when a client feeds this information back to Wikidata, e.g. by showing editable article descriptions, and I'm not aware of anything doing that (there was work on it for the official apps in T90765 and T145813 but not enabled yet).TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T184000EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: TgrCc: TheDJ, Fjalapeno, Mholloway, Tbayer, MZMcBride, Alsee, bearND, Mike_Peel, Tgr, JKatzWMF, daniel, Bmueller, Addshore, Lydia_Pintscher, Samwilson, Aklapper, DannyH, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, JJMC89, B20180, Nakon, MusikAnimal, Niharika, Fhocutt, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Ricordisamoa, -jem-, Mbch331, Krenair___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T184000: Magic word on English WP to override display of Wikidata short description
Alsee added a comment. Closed as invalid. There is no request for this task. See T187285 However to address aspects of the proposed task: The community can and will run a bot to put this keyword on all articles. Designing this to display Wikidata when the keyword is absent is little more than symbolic. That symbolism is hostile. The aggressive efforts to preemptively filter "blank" descriptions only sends an even more hostile message of active combat to thwart consensus. And it is equally pointless. There are a multitude of ways to easily circumvent the filter. It would be better if the community could just focus on eagerly getting these descriptions filled. You want people approaching this as a solution, not a foe.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T184000EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Tgr, AlseeCc: Alsee, bearND, Mike_Peel, Tgr, JKatzWMF, TheDJ, daniel, Bmueller, Addshore, Lydia_Pintscher, Samwilson, Aklapper, DannyH, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, JJMC89, B20180, Nakon, MusikAnimal, Niharika, Fhocutt, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Ricordisamoa, -jem-, Mbch331, Krenair___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T184000: Magic word on English WP to override display of Wikidata short description
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