[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T235155: Give a Confirmed right to new Wikidata users who are active and trusted on other projects

2019-10-10 Thread abian
abian added a comment.


  Usually editors have two opposite views about this option. One is what 
@Amire80 exposes: if we propagate the autoconfirmed statuses from Wikipedias to 
Wikidata, then these autoconfirmed users are free to work on their wikis 
autonomously, without caring at all about Wikidata. The other view is that they 
should actually care about Wikidata, that the confirmed status is easy to get 
and that you already get it automatically after carrying out the few test edits 
necessary to know what Wikidata is about. Some people will say the first option 
pursues our goals and contributes more to centralization/harmonization, and 
others will say exactly the same about the second option.
  
  My opinion: both options hide a part of reality and none of them completely 
solves the problem of wanting to contribute and not having permissions to do 
so, which is the important point. Many users who create articles are newcomers, 
and for them propagating the autoconfirmed status is useless. I would rather 
opt for quick and intuitive mechanisms that allow users without permission to 
request a change or provide feedback in general (T234976 
) in cases where they can't 
contribute on their own, whatever those cases or their reasons are.
  
  For this specific example I would say the use case of having a new Wikipedia 
and needing to link the most important articles to Wikidata is quite sporadic 
and it's not a problem to assign some flags manually. But it would also be 
great to encourage editors to complete labels in N'Ko, and thanks to that get 
the autoconfirmed status to continue editing absolutely anything they want on 
Wikidata, forever. :-)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T235155: Give a Confirmed right to new Wikidata users who are active and trusted on other projects

2019-10-10 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
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  Sounds like a good idea to me. In the end it's up to the editors of course. 
It seems to me like something to be done with a bot.

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