[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T212313: Add monolingual language code en-in (Indian English)

2022-10-27 Thread jhsoby 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T212313: Add monolingual language code en-in (Indian English)

2022-10-27 Thread gerritbot 
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  Change 837205 **merged** by jenkins-bot:
  
  [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase@master] Add severel requested monolingual 
language codes
  
  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/837205

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T212313: Add monolingual language code en-in (Indian English)

2022-10-12 Thread Lydia_Pintscher 
Lydia_Pintscher edited projects, added Wikidata Dev Team; removed 
Community-consensus-needed.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T212313: Add monolingual language code en-in (Indian English)

2022-10-01 Thread gerritbot 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T212313: Add monolingual language code en-in (Indian English)

2022-10-01 Thread gerritbot 
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  Change 837205 had a related patch set uploaded (by Jon Harald Søby; author: 
Jon Harald Søby):
  
  [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase@master] Add severel requested monolingual 
language codes
  
  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/837205

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T212313: Add monolingual language code en-in (Indian English)

2022-10-01 Thread jhsoby 
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  Yes, this is OK.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T212313: Add monolingual language code en-in (Indian English)

2021-07-18 Thread Mbch331 
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  @Amire80 @jhsoby Now we have en-us, is this acceptable too?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T212313: Add monolingual language code en-in (Indian English)

2021-07-18 Thread Bugreporter 
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  To align with T286862: add monolingual code en-au 
 (native labels)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T212313: Add monolingual language code en-in (Indian English)

2021-06-11 Thread Bugreporter 
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  I have said before at T201509#4488401 
: all setting of language 
codes should be unified to one place outside Wikibase.
  
  Also we need to differ "interface language" and "languages known by 
MediaWiki" - the former only including languages with localization enabled, and 
the later (which   Wikidata term/monolingual/lexeme languages should bases on) 
would ideally include all 7000+ languages in IANA registry.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T212313: Add monolingual language code en-in (Indian English)

2021-06-11 Thread Mbch331 
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  In T212313#7150692 , 
@Esc3300 wrote:
  
  > In T212313#6611768 , 
@Nirmos wrote:
  >
  >> What system message would be different in Indian English compared to 
British English?
  >
  > Can we have en-in for labels/descriptions without having it as an interface 
language?
  
  Yes. It's possible to add languages for labels/aliases/descriptions that 
aren't used for the interface. But there needs to be clear distinction between 
en and en-in. We don't want en-in so we can copy en.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T212313: Add monolingual language code en-in (Indian English)

2021-06-10 Thread Esc3300 
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  In T212313#6611768 , 
@Nirmos wrote:
  
  > What system message would be different in Indian English compared to 
British English?
  
  Can we have en-in for labels/descriptions without having it as an interface 
language?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T212313: Add monolingual language code en-in (Indian English)

2021-06-03 Thread Esc3300 
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  For monolingual text, are there any reasons why this shouldn't move ahead? If 
later someone translates the interface as well, this shouldn't create any 
problems.
  
  @Bluerasberry as you requested this, what's your view on this?

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2021-05-14 Thread Aklapper 
Aklapper removed a project: good first task.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T212313: Add monolingual language code en-in (Indian English)

2020-12-18 Thread Nikki 
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  In T212313#6701295 , 
@ChristianKl wrote:
  
  > Wikidata has lexemes in addition to items. Lexemes need language codes to 
express to which language a lexeme belongs. To create lexemes that tell us that 
vote banks is a term in en-in that corresponds to vote block in en-us we need 
lexemes.
  
  This ticket appears to be for monolingual text, not lexemes.
  
  And for lexemes, I wouldn't use `en-us` or `en-in` for your example at all, 
because they are not spelling variants. I would enter both as English with the 
properties location of sense usage 
 and synonym 
 on the senses.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T212313: Add monolingual language code en-in (Indian English)

2020-12-18 Thread ChristianKl 
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  Wikidata has lexemes in addition to items. Lexemes need language codes to 
express to which language a lexeme belongs. To create lexemes that tell us that 
vote banks is a term in en-in that corresponds to vote block in en-us we need 
lexemes.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T212313: Add monolingual language code en-in (Indian English)

2020-11-09 Thread Amire80 
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  In T212313#6614222 , @MJL 
wrote:
  
  > In T212313#6611889 , 
@Amire80 wrote:
  >
  >> If MediaWiki messages can be different in a way that can't be covered by 
en (or en-gb), then we can have it as a user interface language similarly to 
en-gb, en-ca, etc., and if I'm not mistaken, this will automatically apply also 
to monolingual codes.
  >
  > I would prefer to see that outcome in all honesty. Indian English has 
millions of speakers worldwide and is much more popular than British or 
Canadian English. I never really understood why users shouldn't be allowed to 
use it for their interface language setting.
  
  Sure, I am happy to do it. If we have en-ca, en-in is legitimate, too. But as 
I said, I'd first love to see examples of messages that can't be covered by 
other variants.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T212313: Add monolingual language code en-in (Indian English)

2020-11-09 Thread MJL 
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  In T212313#6611889 , 
@Amire80 wrote:
  
  > If MediaWiki messages can be different in a way that can't be covered by en 
(or en-gb), then we can have it as a user interface language similarly to 
en-gb, en-ca, etc., and if I'm not mistaken, this will automatically apply also 
to monolingual codes.
  
  I would prefer to see that outcome in all honesty. Indian English has 
millions of speakers worldwide and is much more popular than British or 
Canadian English. I never really understood why users shouldn't be allowed to 
use it for their interface language setting.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T212313: Add monolingual language code en-in (Indian English)

2020-11-08 Thread Amire80 
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  In T212313#6611739 , @MJL 
wrote:
  
  > In T212313#6611541 , 
@Amire80 wrote:
  >
  >> Are there any examples of where the values in "English" and in "Indian 
English" would be different?
  >
  > While referring to a movie theatre 
, in Indian English it normally 
would be called a //cinema hall//.
  
  This sounds more like something for labels and not for monolingual values, 
although I wonder whether it's really necessary to define a whole language for 
this.
  
  > In elections, Americans will mention voting blocs 
 while Indians talk about vote banks 
.
  
  There are two English Wikipedia articles, and two corresponding Wikidata 
items. It's not a thing for which I'd define a different language.
  
  > Then you have British-like spellings for things like "metre", 
"organisation", or "colour".
  >
  > With its unique terms and seperate spelling conventions, I would certainly 
say this is more than justified.
  
  Sure, but none of these are specific examples of something that can't be done 
on Wikidata or another Wikimedia project at the moment without defining a new 
language.
  
  To be clear, I'm not opposed to adding it in principle, but it is relevant to 
understand what is this useful for //exactly//.
  
  If MediaWiki messages can be different in a way that can't be covered by en 
(or en-gb), then we can have it as a user interface language similarly to 
en-gb, en-ca, etc., and if I'm not mistaken, this will automatically apply also 
to monolingual codes.
  
  If different MediaWiki messages are not necessary, but monolingual values 
are, that's fine, but I'd like to see specific examples.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T212313: Add monolingual language code en-in (Indian English)

2020-11-08 Thread GerardM 
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  Hoi,
  No problems with Indian English, we also support Australian English. I can
  imagine that there are differences in Indian English but that takes nothing
  away from the legitimacy of this request.
  Thanks,
  
GerardM

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T212313: Add monolingual language code en-in (Indian English)

2020-11-08 Thread Nirmos 
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  What system message would be different in Indian English compared to British 
English?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T212313: Add monolingual language code en-in (Indian English)

2020-11-08 Thread MJL 
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  In T212313#6611541 , 
@Amire80 wrote:
  
  > Are there any examples of where the values in "English" and in "Indian 
English" would be different?
  
  While referring to a movie theatre 
, in Indian English it normally 
would be called a //cinema hall//.
  In elections, Americans will mention voting blocs 
 while Indians talk about vote banks 
.
  
  Then you have British-like spellings for things like "metre", "organisation", 
or "colour".
  
  With its unique terms and seperate spelling conventions, I would certainly 
say this is more than justified.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T212313: Add monolingual language code en-in (Indian English)

2020-11-08 Thread Amire80 
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  Are there any examples of where the values in "English" and in "Indian 
English" would be different?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T212313: Add monolingual language code en-in (Indian English)

2020-11-08 Thread Mbch331 
Mbch331 added a subscriber: Amire80.
Mbch331 added a comment.


  In T212313#6611342 , 
@Aklapper wrote:
  
  > How to get feedback from LangCom on this task? Are there any contact 
workflows that the task author should follow?
  
  @jhsoby & @Amire80 are members of LangCom and can speak on behalf of LangCom. 
Jon/Amir: Can you respond to the request?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T212313: Add monolingual language code en-in (Indian English)

2020-11-08 Thread Aklapper 
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  How to get feedback from LangCom on this task? Are there any contact 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T212313: Add monolingual language code en-in (Indian English)

2020-09-15 Thread Bugreporter 
Bugreporter removed a parent task: T144272: [DO NOT USE] new monolingual 
language code requests for Wikidata (tracking)  [superseded by #language_codes].

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T212313: Add monolingual language code en-in (Indian English)

2020-09-14 Thread jhsoby 
jhsoby added a project: Language codes.

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