[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T272697: (MS 6) Query for date values

2021-04-14 Thread Sarai-WMDE 
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  Hey, @abian! Thank you so much for reporting this problem. We broke it down 
in two issues:
  
  1. Querying for dates with year and month precision using the condition 
"before" generates invalid results. The following ticket was created to address 
this: T280035 
  
  2. The system interpretation of dates that consist of 4 separate digits 
(month precision) is not clearly indicated to users: basically, the fact that 
31-01 is interpreted as January of the year 31 is not apparent. Ticket: T280158 

  
  We are aware of some of the current limitations of the date queries in the 
Query builder, and we're currently collecting and documenting those. We would 
be very grateful if you'd be willing to share any other issues and problematic 
use cases that you might be aware of. Thanks very much again!

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T272697: (MS 6) Query for date values

2021-04-13 Thread abian 
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  According to the UI, you can retrieve people born before (or after), for 
example, 31 January (birthday), but what you get has nothing to do with that. I 
believe there are quite a few other problematic use cases (which is 
understandable, this is a challenging task!).
  
  F34374151: 31-1.png 
  
  https://w-beta.wmflabs.org/Ho
  
  https://w.wiki/3BVR

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T272697: (MS 6) Query for date values

2021-04-13 Thread amy_rc 
amy_rc moved this task from Test (Verification) to Done on the Wikidata Query 
Builder board.
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T272697: (MS 6) Query for date values

2021-04-13 Thread amy_rc 
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  tested for the BDD and ACC. \o/

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T272697: (MS 6) Query for date values

2021-04-12 Thread Maintenance_bot 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T272697: (MS 6) Query for date values

2021-04-12 Thread gerritbot 
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  Change 678567 **merged** by jenkins-bot:
  
  [wikidata/query-builder@master] Fix not selecting anything with month or year 
precision
  
  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/678567

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T272697: (MS 6) Query for date values

2021-04-12 Thread gerritbot 
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  Change 678282 **merged** by jenkins-bot:
  
  [wikidata/query-builder@master] Ensure day precision for day values
  
  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/678282

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T272697: (MS 6) Query for date values

2021-04-12 Thread Sarai-WMDE 
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  In T272697#6990424 , 
@Sarai-WMDE wrote:
  
  > I also noticed that we're not getting any results when queries only contain 
"month-year" or "year" date values (I'm assuming we want to allow this). For 
example, this query  should find at least the 
First Balkan war . This applies to 
"matching" relations too, not only ranges.
  >
  > Maybe the exclusion has to do with attaching year precision to incomplete 
values formatted in xsd:dateTime? Maybe we should use YEAR(?time) with 
precision>=9 in case only years are entered, or translate the input to ranges 
of xsd:dateTime values instead
  
  This is working after recent patch!

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2021-04-12 Thread gerritbot 
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  Change 678567 had a related patch set uploaded (by Michael Große; author: 
Michael Große):
  
  [wikidata/query-builder@master] Fix not selecting anything with month or year 
precision
  
  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/678567

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T272697: (MS 6) Query for date values

2021-04-12 Thread Sarai-WMDE 
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  I also noticed that we're not getting any results when queries only contain 
"month-year" or "year" date values. For example, this query 
 should find at least the First Balkan war 
. This applies to "matching" relations 
too, not only ranges.
  
  Maybe the exclusion has to do with attaching year precision to incomplete 
values formatted in xsd:dateTime? Maybe we should use YEAR(?time) in case only 
years are entered, or translate the input to ranges of xsd:dateTime values with 
precision >=9 instead?

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2021-04-12 Thread amy_rc 
amy_rc closed subtask T273002: (MS 6) Create Date input component as 
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2021-04-09 Thread Michael 
Michael moved this task from Test (Verification) to Peer Review on the Wikidata 
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  When verifying, @Sarai-WMDE  noticed that we are getting year-precision 
results for day values: https://w-beta.wmflabs.org/HW
  
  The patch  above should fix this.

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2021-04-09 Thread gerritbot 
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  Change 678282 had a related patch set uploaded (by Michael Große; author: 
Michael Große):
  
  [wikidata/query-builder@master] Ensure day precision for day values
  
  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/678282

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2021-04-09 Thread Michael 
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2021-04-09 Thread Michael 
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  Querying for date values can now be verified on the toolforge test-system 
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2021-04-09 Thread Michael 
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2021-04-06 Thread amy_rc 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T272697: (MS 6) Query for date values

2021-03-30 Thread Lydia_Pintscher 
Lydia_Pintscher closed subtask T277057: (MS 6) Create FormatValueRepository as 
Resolved.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T272697: (MS 6) Query for date values

2021-03-29 Thread Michael 
Michael added a comment.


  In T272697#6931299 , 
@Lydia_Pintscher wrote:
  
  > In T272697#6927889 , 
@Michael wrote:
  >
  >> In T272697#6910845 , 
@Lydia_Pintscher wrote:
  >>
   We only support 3 degrees of precision: day, month, year
  >>>
  >>> Can we clarify why only those 3?
  >>
  >> IIRC, because you said so :)
  >
  > I don't remember that    And from a user-perspective I don't think there 
is a reason to restrict it. Are there technical reasons?
  
  Not per se, though it is some extra work associated with each extra level of 
precision. The reason is that each precision needs some custom handling when 
generating the SPARQL. E.g. "15th century" is stored roughly as `1500-00-00` 
and needs to be transformed into `'> 1400-00-00'` and `'<=1500-00-00'`. This 
effort isn't huge, but is also not just a config change.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T272697: (MS 6) Query for date values

2021-03-20 Thread Lydia_Pintscher 
Lydia_Pintscher added a comment.


  In T272697#6927889 , 
@Michael wrote:
  
  > In T272697#6910845 , 
@Lydia_Pintscher wrote:
  >
  >>> We only support 3 degrees of precision: day, month, year
  >>
  >> Can we clarify why only those 3?
  >
  > IIRC, because you said so :)
  
  I don't remember that    And from a user-perspective I don't think there is 
a reason to restrict it. Are there technical reasons?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T272697: (MS 6) Query for date values

2021-03-19 Thread Michael 
Michael renamed this task from "(MS 6)  Query for date values" to "(MS 6) 
Query for date values".

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T272697: (MS 6)  Query for date values

2021-03-19 Thread Michael 
Michael added a comment.


  In T272697#6910845 , 
@Lydia_Pintscher wrote:
  
  >> We only support 3 degrees of precision: day, month, year
  >
  > Can we clarify why only those 3?
  
  IIRC, because you said so :)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T272697: (MS 6)  Query for date values

2021-03-13 Thread Lydia_Pintscher 
Lydia_Pintscher added a comment.


  > We only support 3 degrees of precision: day, month, year
  
  Can we clarify why only those 3?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T272697: (MS 6)  Query for date values

2021-03-09 Thread Michael 
Michael updated the task description.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T272697: (MS 6)  Query for date values

2021-03-09 Thread Michael 
Michael renamed this task from "(MS 6) Query for date values" to "(MS 6)  
Query for date values".
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T272697: (MS 6) Query for date values

2021-03-03 Thread Lydia_Pintscher 
Lydia_Pintscher set the point value for this task to "13".

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T272697: (MS 6) Query for date values

2021-03-02 Thread abian 
abian added a comment.


  In T272697#6875288 , 
@Sarai-WMDE wrote:
  
  > Hey, @abian. Those are very valid and concerns, and we really appreciate 
you sharing them! We are aware that unfortunately some current issues will also 
be reproduced by the new application (e.g. querying for a specific date like 
01-01-2021 will result in false positives, since 2021 with precision year will 
also be retrieved). In the context of the Query Builder, users will only be 
able to enter specific dates, and precision will be interpreted based on their 
input (we are yet to define how some values – e.g. years only – would be 
translated into SPARQL. This might be the key to alleviate some of the inherent 
issues with dates?). This data type is definitely a tricky one, and we wouldn't 
like to proceed being unaware of big problems. Since you seem to really have a 
deep understanding of the issue and its consequences, it'd be great if you'd be 
up for a chat?
  
  Of course we can chat. :-) I'll send you an email.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T272697: (MS 6) Query for date values

2021-03-02 Thread Sarai-WMDE 
Sarai-WMDE added a comment.


  Hey, @abian. Those are very valid and concerns, and we really appreciate you 
sharing them! We are aware that unfortunately some current issues will also be 
reproduced by the new application (e.g. querying for a specific date like 
01-01-2021 will result in false positives, since 2021 with precision year will 
also be retrieved). In the context of the Query Builder, users will only be 
able to enter specific dates, and precision will be interpreted based on their 
input (we are yet to define how some values – e.g. years only – would be 
translated into SPARQL. This might be the key to alleviate some of the inherent 
issues with dates?). This data type is definitely a tricky one, and we wouldn't 
like to proceed being unaware of big problems. Since you seem to really have a 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T272697: (MS 6) Query for date values

2021-03-02 Thread abian 
abian added a comment.


  Hey over here. I'm writing to warn you that, unfortunately, this can be 
extremely problematic. Since Wikibase stores all dates with day precision, 
regardless of their actual precision (which is stored separately), and the 
irrelevant part of the value can be arbitrary, it's very easy to generate 
misinformation with these features, as has been quietly happening for years and 
continues to happen to many agents and to at least three Property constraint 
types (see T168379 , one of the most 
important causes of false positives in the very system that is intended to 
ensure data quality; and see https://reasonator.toolforge.org/?q=Q100410179 
mentioning the year 1476, totally arbitrary value that Wikibase stores 
internally and shamelessly communicates to all software agents but does not 
display in its web interface). Including these features in the Query Builder 
aimed at the general public without first resolving this problem could have 
very undesirable consequences. I should have opened a Phabricator task 
describing this general problem and all its consequences, but I have never 
found the time or known where to start because of its magnitude and the 
questions it opens up.

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2021-03-02 Thread Charlie_WMDE 
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2021-02-25 Thread Sarai-WMDE 
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2021-02-22 Thread Charlie_WMDE 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T272697: (MS 6) Query for date values

2021-02-16 Thread Lydia_Pintscher 
Lydia_Pintscher assigned this task to Charlie_WMDE.
Lydia_Pintscher added a comment.


  Assigning to Charlie for adding mockups

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2021-02-16 Thread Lydia_Pintscher 
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2021-01-26 Thread Lydia_Pintscher 
Lydia_Pintscher added a subtask: T273002: Create Point in time input component.

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2021-01-26 Thread Lydia_Pintscher 
Lydia_Pintscher renamed this task from "(MS 6) Input date values" to "(MS 6) 
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