Re: [Wikidata-l] [Multimedia] Inclusion criteria for Wikidata items for paintings, engravings, illustrations, manuscript folios, photographs, old postcards, etc ?

2014-10-14 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
In my opinion how many items will X add is a false problem. If p.a. we moved file categories to subpages as we do on templates, we'd have 20 millions new Commons pages: but the question would be, are they as accessible as they were before? Similarly, the only danger is when items' statements

Re: [Wikidata-l] [Multimedia] Inclusion criteria for Wikidata items for paintings, engravings, illustrations, manuscript folios, photographs, old postcards, etc ?

2014-10-14 Thread Jane Darnell
@Daniel - the further back you go, the more notable the engravings in books become (see for example the whole family of engravings and copies thereof for the 17th-century Counts of Holland series) and sometimes engravings from books are the source for paintings. @Nemo - I don't follow your

Re: [Wikidata-l] Users do understand Wikidata less than before

2014-10-14 Thread rupert THURNER
Could you do me a favor please and try to link it out of Wikipedia and then tell how I should have done it? On Oct 13, 2014 6:29 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, This issue was mentioned before. There are two distinct concepts as I recall. One article can only be

Re: [Wikidata-l] Users do understand Wikidata less than before

2014-10-14 Thread Jane Darnell
There are multiple issues with linking the German Wikipedia's afrikanische Pflaume to the French Wikipedia's safou: 1) A tree can only interwikilink to a tree or combined article on the tree + fruit and a fruit can only interwikilink to a fruit or a combined article on the tree + fruit (this is

Re: [Wikidata-l] Users do understand Wikidata less than before

2014-10-14 Thread Smolenski Nikola
Citiranje Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com: 2) There is no way of making an interwikilink for a redirect, and the German Wikipedia's afrikanische Pflaume is currently a redirect to Prunus You should still be able to make an interwiki link for a redirect the old way, are you not?

Re: [Wikidata-l] Users do understand Wikidata less than before

2014-10-14 Thread Jane Darnell
nope On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 6:23 PM, Smolenski Nikola smole...@eunet.rs wrote: Citiranje Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com: 2) There is no way of making an interwikilink for a redirect, and the German Wikipedia's afrikanische Pflaume is currently a redirect to Prunus You should still be

Re: [Wikidata-l] Re-enable quick editing in Wikidata please

2014-10-14 Thread Jane Darnell
Romaine, Have you looked at quick statements to add or update information in Wikidata? It is here: http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/quick_statements.php Maybe this will help you do repetitive updates (you still need to build a list of something, but then you don't have to wait for Wikidata

[Wikidata-l] Sitelinks to Redirects (was: Re: Users do understand Wikidata less than before)

2014-10-14 Thread James Heald
Creating sitelinks to redirects: As I understand it, the classic workaround for this is to * go to client wiki, * edit the page temporarily so that it is not a redirect * add a sitelink * edit the page again to turn it back into a redirect. Thus, at least as I understand it, there is no

Re: [Wikidata-l] Users do understand Wikidata less than before

2014-10-14 Thread rupert THURNER
French safou should be fruit, because the tree is safoutier. German afrikanische Pflaume is fruit as well. This is a 1:1 match. Prunus contains tens of fruits which do exist as dedicated articles in enwp. If no link can be made to redirects and not to paragraphs this looks like a serious