On 08.01.2015 18:38, Denny Vrandečić wrote:
Yes, CC-BY is great.
Good. I have officially released the article text under this license now:
https://korrekt.org/page/Wikidata:_A_Free_Collaborative_Knowledgebase
Cheers,
Markus
On Thu Jan 08 2015 at 7:01:12 AM Markus Krötzsch
mailto:mar...@se
On 09.01.2015 00:53, Lydia Pintscher wrote:
...
I like the property-centric approach of wikidata, but is there a notion of
subproperties for contextual refinement? I only found this:
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1647
Yes that is all there is. For a usage example see
https://www.wi
On 08.01.2015 22:52, Peter F. Patel-Schneider wrote:
What then is P17 supposed to be used for?
Could, I, for example, use P17 on the address of the Swiss embassy in
Germany and have Switzerland as the value?
"associated" is generally too weak a word to use in describing properties.
We have to
Am 08.01.2015 21:52, schrieb Peter F. Patel-Schneider:
> What then is P17 supposed to be used for?
>
> Could, I, for example, use P17 on the address of the Swiss embassy in Germany
> and have Switzerland as the value?
You could use P17 that way on the item about the Swiss embassy in Germany. I
do
First:
A band is an organisation, not a person.
Second
P17 is deliberately a bit ambiguous so it can be used for those cases where
we don't have specific info. We also have specific properties for those
cases where we have specific info.
We can have an architect born in Germany who spent most of
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 12:43 AM, Jason Douglas wrote:
> Having worked at Metaweb/Google on Freebase, I'd be one of the first to
> admit that Freebase's types conflate too many concepts as they were both
> used for "Is A" class assertions and to group properties that were
> frequently edited togeth
Having worked at Metaweb/Google on Freebase, I'd be one of the first to
admit that Freebase's types conflate too many concepts as they were both
used for "Is A" class assertions and to group properties that were
frequently edited together (in the UI) and for more contextual descriptions
and for...
There is the cultural factor here that Freebase took an approach which is
very similar to the RDFS approach in that they like the idea of defining
separate properties like
:HumanBirthDate
:HorseBirthDate
:DogBirthDate
You can then treat these as subproperties of :AnimalBirthDate which is in
turn
What then is P17 supposed to be used for?
Could, I, for example, use P17 on the address of the Swiss embassy in Germany
and have Switzerland as the value?
"associated" is generally too weak a word to use in describing properties.
peter
On 01/08/2015 01:46 PM, Thad Guidry wrote:
Markus,
De
Markus,
Devils in the details. =)
You used the English word "associated". That's great. Then I would
propose to expand the definition of P17 just a bit to add that.
P17 Country - sovereign state of this item ... to ... sovereign state
ASSOCIATED with this item
Then you save the world. =)
Tho
Il 08/01/2015 20:37, Thad Guidry ha scritto:
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo)
mailto:nemow...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thad Guidry, 08/01/2015 18:58:
Unless the P17 Country property had an expanded definition of
"sovereign
state (or originating sove
On 08.01.2015 21:29, Thad Guidry wrote:
Hi Marcus!
Yes, you and I are on the same page.
I do indeed get this impression ;-)
Yes, I know about the
Property-first view of WIkidata. No quibbles. But there is still an
issue with Assumptions for "Country" P17 being used for an instance of
Band.
Dear Thad,
The second part of your email has good points in it, too. As you say,
one must allow for adjustments in the intended meaning of a property in
real life, and adjusting too much could be dangerous. The method you
suggest (creating a new property and deprecating the old one, rather
th
Hi Marcus!
Yes, you and I are on the same page. Yes, I know about the Property-first
view of WIkidata. No quibbles. But there is still an issue with
Assumptions for "Country" P17 being used for an instance of Band...so let's
clarify this...
So, I guess things are fuzzy, because I do not jump t
On 08.01.2015 20:37, Thad Guidry wrote:
...
Right, Freebase would not stick a Property called "Country" right on an
instance of a Music Band. We would put Country under the Musical Group
type, and give it a better definition like "The nation or territory that
this item originated from". Freeb
Templates can also be coded in lua, which is comparable to javascript in
expressivity. It's not so hard to code a generic lua template that could
act as reasonator, multilingual and that could be imported into every
language versions of Wikipedia.
Here is the interesting thing : this generic versi
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo)
wrote:
> Thad Guidry, 08/01/2015 18:58:
>
>> Unless the P17 Country property had an expanded definition of "sovereign
>> state (or originating sovereign state) of this item"
>>
>
> That's more like P27. Both are rather flexible though, see the
Thad Guidry, 08/01/2015 18:58:
Unless the P17 Country property had an expanded definition of "sovereign
state (or originating sovereign state) of this item"
That's more like P27. Both are rather flexible though, see their talk pages.
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P17
1. How doe
Freebase has mutexes that store incompatible type information.
For instance, in Wikidata I noticed on the U2 band topic, that they have
statements of:
P17 Country - sovereign state of this item.
P740 Location of formation - location where a group or organization was
formed.
In Freebase we have b
Actually, since Wikidata allows now properties on properties, one might
easily create an item "Disambiguating property" and then make a claim
"instance of - Disambiguating property" on the relevant property. there is
no need for any extra implementation work.
On Wed Jan 07 2015 at 9:48:32 AM Tha
Yay! I would love to see it featured on the
Wikidata main page! Let's slashdot ACM :)
On Thu Jan 08 2015 at 6:11:57 AM wrote:
> Prior to viewing Markus Krötzsch's Wikidata page, I was unaware of the
> "Wikidata: A Free Collaborative Knowledgebase" article [1] written by
> Denny Vrandečić and Mar
Yes, CC-BY is great.
On Thu Jan 08 2015 at 7:01:12 AM Markus Krötzsch <
mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org> wrote:
> On 08.01.2015 15:10, ja...@j1w.xyz wrote:
> > Prior to viewing Markus Krötzsch's Wikidata page, I was unaware of the
> > "Wikidata: A Free Collaborative Knowledgebase" article [1] writt
On 08.01.2015 15:10, ja...@j1w.xyz wrote:
Prior to viewing Markus Krötzsch's Wikidata page, I was unaware of the
"Wikidata: A Free Collaborative Knowledgebase" article [1] written by
Denny Vrandečić and Markus Krötzsch. This is a very helpful article
that in my opinion should be featured on the
Prior to viewing Markus Krötzsch's Wikidata page, I was unaware of the
"Wikidata: A Free Collaborative Knowledgebase" article [1] written by
Denny Vrandečić and Markus Krötzsch. This is a very helpful article
that in my opinion should be featured on the Wikidata main page.
[1] http://cacm.acm.or
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