Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2013-03-22 Thread Michael Hale
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 17:34:05 + To: wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data On 21 March 2013 15:39, Michael Hale hale.michael...@live.com wrote: Great post. Regarding the suggestions feature, it seems the easiest way to get that rolling would

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2013-03-21 Thread Michael Hale
using Wikidata any easier. From: dtarabore...@wikimedia.org Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 10:12:05 -0700 To: wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data I disagree, and fully concur with Tom: a generic string type for a datetime qualifier defies the purpose

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2013-03-21 Thread Michael Hale
of Wikipedia. Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 09:58:38 -0400 From: tfmor...@gmail.com To: wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 1:49 AM, Michael Hale hale.michael...@live.com wrote: Yes, I think once qualifiers are enabled you would just

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2013-03-21 Thread Denny Vrandečić
@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data We will have a time datatype, and every property is strongly typed. This is also true for properties used as qualifiers. Regarding the priority of qualifiers: very high. They are the next major UI feature to be deployed

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2013-03-21 Thread Michael Hale
: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data We will have a time datatype, and every property is strongly typed. This is also true for properties used as qualifiers. Regarding the priority of qualifiers: very high. They are the next major UI feature to be deployed, and as far as I can tell from

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2013-03-21 Thread Denny Vrandečić
? -- Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:09:58 +0100 From: denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de To: wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data We do have strong types, but only few of time: item, commons media, string, time, geo, URL. Government

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2013-03-21 Thread Michael Hale
typed, right? Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:09:58 +0100 From: denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de To: wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data We do have strong types, but only few of time: item, commons media, string, time, geo, URL. Government leader would

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2013-03-21 Thread Andrew Gray
On 21 March 2013 15:39, Michael Hale hale.michael...@live.com wrote: Great post. Regarding the suggestions feature, it seems the easiest way to get that rolling would be to have a bot that would periodically tally all of the properties for all of the items that have an is a property with the

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2013-03-15 Thread Mathieu Stumpf
Le 2013-03-15 13:16, Thomas Douillard a écrit : 2013/3/15 Mathieu Stumpf psychosl...@culture-libre.org Le 2013-03-14 19:38, Michael Hale a écrit : A topic I've been involved in recently regards statistics for gun violence in the US. The government publishes a big report every year, but it

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2013-03-15 Thread Tom Morris
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 1:49 AM, Michael Hale hale.michael...@live.comwrote: Yes, I think once qualifiers are enabled you would just have something like: ... Property(head of local government) ... Value(Elizabeth I) - Qualifier(1558-1603) - Sources() Value(James VI and I) -

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2013-03-14 Thread Michael Hale
: Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data Such an old topic, and was unread in my mailbox by now. :-) Although having validity intervals in Data would be great, I think now, as we have Lua, there is a client-side approach at least for such specific data as DB's timetable that is interesting

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2013-03-14 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Hi Dario, two or three features are still missing to enable that (sorted in order we are probably going to deploy them): * qualifiers * the time datatype * statement ranks As soon as they are available, this can be modeled in a way that it can be useful for projects accessing the data. So,

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2013-03-14 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The qualifiers, would that be something like ... if the language is English, the string can be a noun, a verb, an adjective When the sting is a Dutch noun, it can be masculine, feminine or neuter ?? When a qualifier allows for such constructs, we are halfway there to implementing a

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2013-03-14 Thread Michael Hale
a template that automatically makes a table to show the 5 most recent years somewhere in the Atlanta article for example. Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 16:37:01 +0100 From: jeb...@gmail.com To: wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data This has also been

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2013-03-14 Thread Dario Taraborelli
Thanks Denny for the update and everybody else for the feedback. The cases I am particularly interested in are those of qualifiers to express that Elizabeth I was Queen of England between 1558 and 1603, or that the city of Vibo Valentia was in the Province of Catanzaro up to 1996, in the

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2013-03-14 Thread Michael Hale
qualifiers should have specific datatypes other than just string, but I think we should only do that if needed. From: dtarabore...@wikimedia.org Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 21:27:32 -0700 To: wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data Thanks Denny for the update

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2013-03-13 Thread Dario Taraborelli
Has there been any progress on time-based qualifiers since this thread? If so, can someone point me to relevant discussions/proposals? Thanks Dario On Oct 11, 2012, at 8:28 AM, Marco Fleckinger marco.fleckin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On 11.10.2012 16:12, Lydia Pintscher wrote: On Thu, Oct

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2012-10-11 Thread benedix
Hi, there are lot's of other data that is not valid today, but will be in the future... think about a law that is changed today but the old version is valid until end of year... Is there something like VALID_FROM and VALID_TO in your Database? LB Hi, On 10.10.2012 15:51, Luca Martinelli

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2012-10-11 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:13 AM, bene...@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote: Hi, there are lot's of other data that is not valid today, but will be in the future... think about a law that is changed today but the old version is valid until end of year... Is there something like VALID_FROM and

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2012-10-11 Thread Marco Fleckinger
Hi, On 11.10.2012 16:12, Lydia Pintscher wrote: On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:13 AM,bene...@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote: Is there something like VALID_FROM and VALID_TO in your Database? LB This is basically what the qualifiers do. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Notes/Data_model_primer

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2012-10-10 Thread Luca Martinelli
2012/9/30 Neil Harris n...@tonal.clara.co.uk: On 30/09/12 13:00, bene...@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote: Hi, I think a valid_from and valid_to-field would be a great idea. Especially for queries on the db. But I think it is a fundamental design decision and I'm not sure if it's possible to

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2012-10-10 Thread Marco Fleckinger
Hi, On 10.10.2012 15:51, Luca Martinelli wrote: 2012/9/30 Neil Harrisn...@tonal.clara.co.uk: On 30/09/12 13:00, bene...@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote: Hi, I think a valid_from and valid_to-field would be a great idea. Especially for queries on the db. But I think it is a fundamental design

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2012-09-30 Thread Daniel Kinzler
On 30.09.2012 11:59, Marco Fleckinger wrote: Hi, regarding an actual topic in Germany about publication of the timetable-data of Deutsche Bahn (German national railway company) and their willingness of a discussion with other Open-Data-Supporters it may be a good idea of providing an

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2012-09-30 Thread benedix
Hi, I think a valid_from and valid_to-field would be a great idea. Especially for queries on the db. But I think it is a fundamental design decision and I'm not sure if it's possible to integrate now... LB Marco Fleckinger marco.fleckin...@gmail.com schrieb: Hi, On 30.09.2012 12:07, Daniel

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2012-09-30 Thread Neil Harris
On 30/09/12 13:00, bene...@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote: Hi, I think a valid_from and valid_to-field would be a great idea. Especially for queries on the db. But I think it is a fundamental design decision and I'm not sure if it's possible to integrate now... LB Seconded. This would, for