Friedrich Röhrs wrote:
as far as I have understood Nadja Kutz and John McClure want the wikidata dev
team to somehow commit to using ISO topic maps for the classification of the
content of wikidata.
No that is not what I want the wikidata to do. please read all my postings to
this thread :
John McClure wrote:
Nadja conflated our asking about ISO Topic Maps as a base design standard
with incorporating ALL ISO STANDARDS EVER PUBLISHED into the wikidata
database
OK what I have sofar understood is that the ISO has not (yet) published much
semantically structured content,
2012/9/5 Nadja Kutz na...@daytar.de:
Is it planned by the Wikidata team that someone phones these people in
Geneva and asks wether wikidata could at least base its ontology (here I
mean in particular the overall classification scheme, like a hammer is a
tool a.s.o) on
the ISO Standard
Mr. Denny Vandrecic, many thanks for your detailed answer. Let me try to
explain the open questions
I am not a lawyer, but I want to point out that there is a distinction
between Copyright and other IP protection. Whereas a text about the
classification of hammers may (and usually is)
P.S.
I think this has been suggested already but I am not sure - I think that one
should eventually think of allowing parallel classifications schemes at
wikidata. So one could have an ISO classification
AND a user made classification like similar to the one at megajoule.org.
Frankly speaking
Dear all,
sorry but I think I didn't correctly got the point of the whole thing.
Probably, I was overestimating my English competence, or my
free-licensing competence, or both.
So, without ANY intention of being rude, or even polemical, I would
like to ask: what is this discussion about, again?
Hi Nadja -
To my knowledge ISO has not published, nor is intending
to publish, instances of topic maps representing the content of their
numerous publications, using either their (ISO's) standard for Topic
Maps (ISO/IEC 13250), or any other ISO or non-ISO standard. Forgive me
if I ever gave
Hi Denny - your statement, that SNAKS can be related to RDF or
topic maps, is interesting to me, particularly your reference to topic
maps. I tend to interpret this as saying you believe SNAKS implements
the topic map data model, represented using RDF triples, that SNAKS is
informed by or
Luca,
You're right, and I apologize that I steered the discussion
from content classification back to an old wikidata data modelling
question -- SNAKS vs Topic Maps. Because I am ignorant about any ISO
classification standard whatsoever I thought the old bugaboo modelling
discussion was being
Hi Luca,
a)
as far as I have understood Nadja Kutz and John McClure want the
wikidata dev team to somehow commit to using ISO topic maps for the
classification of the content of wikidata. The Dev teams position is
that how the content will finally be structured is not up to them but
to the
Nadja,
"Why is the topic map standard at http://www.topicmaps.org/standards/an unofficial topic map standard?" Links can be found to working technical committee reports, which are generally re-titled as "standards" once voted and accepted by ISO. These TC reports vary little from what is
No sir, that is not right. As I said there is no ISO classification
scheme of which I am aware. And I've said I no longer have interest in
the wikidata team using ISO Topic Maps - that is a dead issue since the
team declined to discuss it.
*At the time I wrote the emails you
referenced* I was
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Nadja,
John's question was:
So, the consequent question I asked then was, if you're not going to
use any (ISO or national) standard then how can you assure the WP
community that Wikidata is not violating someone's copyright(s)?
My answer to that question was that we are using standards. And
Nadja replied but the mailman decided to bounce the message. I'm
investigating...
Here's Nadja's message:
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So, the consequent question I asked then was, if you're not going to
Nadja wrote:
Hello Denny Vrandecic
I hope you have a lawyer who checks this, on a first 1 min glance at
this page it doesnt
look to me obvious that a collision (like when creating a
classification scheme as described in
my previous email and as John asked) is excluded, it looks more as the
Hello,
The genesis of the legal question is the thread concerning
using ISO Topic Map precepts not SNAKs. Surely you know a number of
individuals on this forum feel that our challenge at that time was not
thoughtfully engaged. Instead we received replies focused on costs
associated with ISO
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Nadja Kutz na...@daytar.de wrote:
Hello
Is there any news on the thoughts about including ISO standards into wikidata?
in particular it would be nice to here someone from wikidata comment on this:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.wikidata/576
?
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